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To: GeronL
Didn't read the article, did you?

What you posted is not true - what Evangelicals believe Catholics believe is nowhere near the truth. But - as the article says Evangelicals insist on telling Catholics what Catholics believe, instead of listening to the Catholics when they tell them what they actually believe.

Here's the issue in the article: WHY do you spend so much time hyperventilating over Mary-as-goddess (something no Catholic believes), when it would seem to be a lot more rational to be having fits over the fact that we do believe that the Blessed Sacrament is Jesus - body and blood, soul and divinity. (Jack Chick has periodic fits over it, but nobody on FR seems to ever mention it.)

6 posted on 01/01/2013 1:32:48 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
what Evangelicals believe Catholics believe is nowhere near the truth

This Evangelical grew up Catholic: baptized, confirmed, first communion... Also happened to be National Catechism Champion in High School in Spain. And I do feel uncomfortable, to say the least, with the degree of reverence given to Mary in the Catholic church. You say that praying and lighting candles is not worshiping... I think you are splitting hairs here!

8 posted on 01/01/2013 1:38:39 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: AnAmericanMother

“But - as the article says Evangelicals insist on telling Catholics what Catholics believe, instead of listening to the Catholics when they tell them what they actually believe.”

That’s really an over-simplification. Evangelicals have a theological view, and if you accept that view, Catholic claims and apologetics don’t hold up to scrutiny. Of course, Catholics don’t accept that view, so they don’t see a problem. It’s not a matter of believing Catholics, or not believing them. It’s a matter of holding the same actions up to two different standards of judgement, and coming to two different conclusions.

To use an analogy, if I believe that Islam is a demonic deception, it’s not simply that I refuse to believe Muslims who tell me otherwise. Rather, I have come to a conclusion based on some evidence, and a particular standard that I apply to evaluate that evidence. You might argue my standard is wrong, or I’m misinterpreting the evidence, but don’t tell me that I am just refusing to believe you out of spite, or willfulness, or something like that.


32 posted on 01/01/2013 3:19:52 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: AnAmericanMother
Here's the issue in the article: WHY do you spend so much time hyperventilating over Mary-as-goddess (something no Catholic believes)

No, here's the issue...IF you pray to it, it's worship...Regardless of what your religion conned you into believing...

56 posted on 01/02/2013 5:38:41 AM PST by Iscool
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