"Never apologize for the
Blessed Virgin Mary!"
~~Mother Angelica
Posted on 01/01/2013 12:39:19 PM PST by Salvation
“Don’t you forget you started this thread accusing Christians of being afraid of a dead human woman.”
No I did not. And making it personal is against the rules.
Really? Mark Shea actually believes this? It has got to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read from the self-proclaimed Roman Catholic "apologists". Let me ask you this. Are Catholics "homophobic"? The homosexual lobby spits out this claim whenever anyone suggests the Bible is against homosexual conduct and prohibits it. We can certainly say that God calls such conduct a sin and, as a society, we should not condone behavior God condemns, but are we "homophobic" by doing so? Are we in fear of or afraid of homosexuals? NO, of course not. That is a silly and stupid thing for them to say.
So, by what right do Catholics have to claim anyone who does not hold to the same glorification of Mary, Jesus' mother, that others do, qualify as Mariaphobia? JUST AS STUPID! I can honor and praise Mary for her faithfulness and bravery in the things God called on her to do. I can agree she is blessed among women and strive to be the same kind of faithful Christian as she was. But, I do not consider her the "Mother of God" nor do I believe she is the spiritual mother of all Christians. I don't believe we are to "pray" to her nor expect her to have any special "in" with God because she is his mother and he has to listen to her. I don't believe we should erect statues of her to burn candles in front of nor do I believe she has any special powers to "deliver" people from Purgatory (there IS no such place, but that's another thread all its own). There are many things that I believe some people go overboard in consideration of Mary and it has only escalated over the centuries to where it has become a cult all to itself.
But, am I afraid of Mary? Do I think I am missing something by not joining with others who adore and worship/venerate her? Nope. I believe all glory and honor and praise should go to the one who deserves all the glory and honor and praise - the Lord Jesus Christ, Almighty God incarnate. Without him, nothing else would exist that exists. I prefer to give HIM what is due Him and which He will share with NO ONE else. Mariaphobic Response Syndrome, that's a joke, right?!
You're also not supposed to be praying/worshiping/kissing statues which are usually called "Graven images" or "idols". Look at the second commandment.
My God is not dead, he's alive ! He's God enough that I don't need to scheme behind his back with dead humans to trick him into getting what I need. I don't have to "politic" and "rumor" or "work" my way to heaven. My God is NOT A BUREAUCRAT !
"Mariology of the Popes"
"Pope Pius XII dedicated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. He prescribed this Feast for the whole Church in 1944 and placed his pontificate under the special patronage of the Virgin,[62] and was called the most Marian pope in Church history.[63] His life and pontificate were clearly marked by his Marian veneration. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariology_of_Pope_Pius_XII#Pius_XII
"Mariology of the Popes"
"Pope Pius XII dedicated Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. He prescribed this Feast for the whole Church in 1944 and placed his pontificate under the special patronage of the Virgin,[62] and was called the most Marian pope in Church history.[63] His life and pontificate were clearly marked by his Marian veneration. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariology_of_Pope_Pius_XII#Pius_XII
Interpretation:
"Dissing of Mary" is anytime someone tries to discuss the Biblical facts about the woman who bore our Savior, Jesus Christ.
No I did not. And making it personal is against the rules
The title of the article is "Mariaphobic...."
Yes, you did.
When the Roman "church" stops using phrasesshalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
like "Queen of heaven" and "Mother of god"
that would be a first step to following YHvH
and His salvation.
“A “saint” is a DEAD HUMAN,...”
Really? So that whole “eternal life” thing, not true?
What denomination teaches you these things?
"Never apologize for the
Blessed Virgin Mary!"
~~Mother Angelica
When the Roman "church" stops using phrases like "Queen of heaven" and "Mother of god" that would be a first step to following YHvH and His salvation.What odd sect teaches that belief? Or is it just you and your own private "church"?
“Yes, you did.”
Nope, and insisting that I did simply makes you look - well - foolish.
That is what is written in the bible.
Really? So that whole “eternal life” thing, not true?
What denomination teaches you these things?
You're just an innocent bystander defending the claim.
Thanks, I’ll take all the prosperous blessings I can get and the same to you.
You finally got around to the facts, good job!
She’s 95, saw her ten minutes ago, and yes, she does.
-— But, I do not consider her the “Mother of God” -—
Is Jesus God? Was Mary Jesus’ mother?
That’s all that the Church means by the title. The Church does not teach that Mary existed before God.
Not so, as if she were sinless, there would be no point to Yeshua. And if any can be MADE sinless, what need is there for any of it?
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