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To: narses; Yashcheritsiy

>> “ Then who did the Apostles leave to govern the Church? No one?” <<

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The “Church” is a mystic body, whose members are indiscernable, thus not governable.

The Church has no offices on Earth; it is headed by Christ, and guided by the Holy Spirit.

Christ called those that would turn his church into a governed body “Nicolaitans,” and stated that he hates them.

The Holy Spirit guides teachers (pastors / bishops) but appoints none of them over anyone. So, yes, he left no one to govern his church, but he left many to guide it.


42 posted on 12/25/2012 11:14:10 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

“The “Church” is a mystic body, whose members are indiscernable, thus not governable.”

Then why did Christ preach, “by the fruits you will know them? Why did he appoint the 12 to serve as his disciples? Was not Peter rebuked for denying that he was one of Christ’s disciples?

As Christ himself said - the world will hate you because they hated me. Any of you who is not hated is not his servant. You can tell his true disciples.

“The Church has no offices on Earth; it is headed by Christ, and guided by the Holy Spirit.”

And Christ himself appointed the 12, and as Acts itself says, the 12 replaced their own members.

“Christ called those that would turn his church into a governed body “Nicolaitans,” and stated that he hates them.”

Where does he say this?

“The Holy Spirit guides teachers (pastors / bishops) but appoints none of them over anyone. So, yes, he left no one to govern his church, but he left many to guide it.”

So the Holy Spirit did not elevate the disciples to Apostles?


46 posted on 12/25/2012 11:18:09 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind. - John Steinbeck :))
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To: editor-surveyor
>> “ Then who did the Apostles leave to govern the Church? No one?” <<

. The “Church” is a mystic body, whose members are indiscernable, thus not governable.

Certainly. I see that you still making that argument that it is right and good to make it all up as you go along. You may wish to reread St. Paul who especially pounds home the principle that Christianity is what the Apostles teach, not what any eunuch happens to wander by.

65 posted on 12/25/2012 12:40:34 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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