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To: RnMomof7
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/1clement-lightfoot.html

'The tone of authority with which the letter speaks is noteworthy, especially in the later part (56, 58, etc.): "But if certain persons should be disobedient unto the words spoken by Him through us let them understand that they will entangle themselves in no slight transgression and danger; but we shall be guiltless of this sin" (59). "It may, perhaps, seem strange", writes [distinguished Anglican scholar] Bishop [J.B.] Lightfoot, "to describe this noble remonstrance as the first step towards papal domination. And yet undoubtedly this is the case." (I, 70.)' - http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04012c.htm

162 posted on 12/18/2012 11:32:01 AM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
1Clem 57:1 Ye therefore that laid the foundation of the sedition, submit yourselves unto the presbyters and receive chastisement unto repentance, bending the knees of your heart.

The greek presbyters translates not priet or pope..but elder

In Luke’s day, local church leaders could be called either elders or overseers, without a clear distinction between the terms” (Sullivan F.A. From Apostles to Bishops: the development of the episcopacy in the early church. F.A. Sullivan Newman Press, Mahwah (NJ), 2001, p. 65)

God ordained that the NT church have Elders ( overseers.)and deacons ..never priests or popes

Acts 14:23 And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.

179 posted on 12/18/2012 1:30:31 PM PST by RnMomof7
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