[anathemized]

Thank you for the link, I’ll read it tomorrow, I trust in the Bible before the results of some of these later councils.

When the early Bishops start to order the murder (killing) of those who disagree with them is when the Holy Spirit has left their church.

I am blessed in the ability to actualy read the Word of God and hear it preached in my own language, unlike the Jews of Pharasitical times or the centuries under RCC rule, I am therefore obliged to consider it with my own mind.

You denounce this, God loves it.

[boatbums]

Here are a few good links to see that there were MANY early church fathers who preached and believed in justification by faith APART from works:

http://turretinfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/justification-by-faith-alone.html

http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2009/12/seeds-of-reformation.html

http://gracethrufaith.com/selah/eternal-security/osas-the-whole-story/

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anathemized:

Really, where did Christ say that individuals need to read and determine their own doctrine. God formed a people, the people of Israel and saved them as a community, which prefigured the Church, founded by Christ who was sent by the Father and thus Christ sent the Apostles. THere was no Sola MEO everybody doing their own thing.

As for killing, that has been a problem long before a Bishop did anything, and I am not sure what Bishop ordered the killing of anyone. Do you have cites from academics and Historians?

Of course you will trust the Bible, Arius had his view of the Bible, Nestorius had his view, going back to the 2nd Century, Marcion and the Gnostics had their view. The funny thing is everybody claims that they are reading the Bible and they have the correc interpretation. So, you join a great tradition of folks thinking they have read the Bible and come up with orthodox Doctrine.