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To: Heff

Saying that something someone does that is wrong is not judging them, but their actions. Judging them would be to condem them and their actions and be able to carry out the sentence, which only God will do.

I am sad that someone would choose this dangerous life style, one that shortens ones life by 20 years (avg) and continues to lead the nation in HIV and STD rates(CDC). This life style is damaging to those caught in its web, physically, mentally, and spiritually.

God has already stated His position on this issue, He has called it an abomination, and has condemed it. All the smoke and mirrors and quoting scripture out of context will not change His mind.

Believers, on the other hand should show Jesus forgivness and the ability to transform any life given to Him. We as believers should call it sin, and it is, but we also need to extend forgivness and grace just as we were given, freely.

Homosexuality is damaging to life, (disease and illness) culture (undermines the family, and marraige-the oldest institution on the planet between one man and one woman), faith (churches/comapnies/individuals already being sued for not giving in to the LGBT agenda)and freedom (not being able to speak ones view about this w/o being threatened with “sensitivity training” or outright fired, and yes it is happening)

God has already sorted this out. (see Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities of the plain, Gen 14)


28 posted on 12/10/2012 10:56:40 PM PST by coincheck (Time is Short, Salvation is for Today)
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To: coincheck

The list of the unrighteous who shall not inherit the Kingdom of God from 1Co 6:9-12 includes:

fornicators,
idolaters,
adulterers,
effeminate,
Sodomites,
thieves,
covetous,
drunkards,
revilers,
extortioners,

But even those who are such, are able through faith in Christ, to not be so condemned by turning away from such things and instead living through faith in Christ.

Romans 1:18-32 also associates the following behavior as unrighteous:

those who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
those when they knew God:
glorified him not as God,
neither were thankful;
became vain in their imaginations,
their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator,
Worshiping that which is not blessed instead of God who is blessed for ever.

A reprobate mind is occupied with:
unrighteousness,
fornication,
wickedness,
covetousness,
maliciousness;
envy,
murder,
debate,
deceit,
malignity,
whisperers,
Backbiters,
haters of God,
despiteful,
proud,
boasters,
inventors of evil things,
disobedient to parents,
Without understanding,
covenant breakers,
without natural affection,
implacable,
unmerciful:

and
knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


32 posted on 12/11/2012 12:03:37 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: coincheck

I understand your points and appreciate your respectful comments. Some of the behavior in the gay community is harmful and dangerous, leaving the religious implications aside. I would imagine that the same gratuitous and reckless hetrosexual behavior is equally harmful.

I know a few gay individuals and a few couples. I can’t speak to how all of them behave but my neighbors are a gay couple. My wife and I have spent time with them, they are generous, church-goesers, fairly conservative, and seem to honor and respect each other. Its very difficult for to find fault with them, let alone not recognize that at every chance they get, they seem to be doing God’s work.

I think we need less fire and brimstone on this issue and more compassion. Alcoholism and drug addiction are without question harmful to our culture and yet we find great compassion for its suffers, I think that same logical should be applied.


41 posted on 12/11/2012 4:48:12 AM PST by Heff (Too many voted for skin color, hand outs and against Mormonism.)
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