[bramps]

I'd add legalistic attitudes like you two seem to have to the list of why things are now allowed in church that never were before. One of you seemingly condemning all music that doesn't fit ‘his’ view, the other stating as fact that a sip of wine is a ticket to hell. No surprise that you back each other up. Churches have enough of a struggle getting people thru the door without also having to deal with biblically unfounded opinions such as yours. So what do churches do? They contort actual scripture as a means to make the ‘church’ that you created seem more palatable.

Please include in any response all of the lyrics that you find so offensive and the exact, undeniable scripture that states that ALL wine consumption is sin.

[fwdude]

Churches have enough of a struggle getting people thru the door without also having to deal with biblically unfounded opinions...

A "church" preoccupied with "getting people thru the doors" at any cost has much bigger problems than the types of music they choose to worship with.

[Wasichu]

The word wine in the Bible is a generic term; sometimes it means grape juice; sometimes it means alcoholic beverages. The following verses prove that the word “wine” can mean fresh grape juice, the fruit of the vine: De. 11:14; 2 Ch. 31:5; Ne. 13:15; Pr. 3:10; Is. 16:10; 65:8; 1 Ti. 5:23.

By the way, Prov. 31:6,7 give us the only legitimate use of alcoholic wine in Scripture. “Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.” This would be using it as an anesthetic; a painkiller.

My final words on this...I have avoided adding to this discussion, I see little to gain. “But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.” Titus 3:9