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To: Alex Murphy
Seasonally timely article ~ the HIndus came up with the same solution to unaddressed question regarding Vishnu's birth as a human several times. (they have this happen 3 times I believe, so they have three different says of maintaining the deity of the messiah while turning him into a human) ~ but it's possible divine beings actually foretold in ancient prophecies actually experience life the same way as other humans.

Not that I was there, but focusing on magic surrounding Jesus earliest days of life tends toward an adoption of the monophysite viewpoint ~ which we saw discussed in a different thread the other day.

So, back to a question I had, how far back were those early church fathers? Was it way back before development of the fullblown Trinitarian viewpoint, or after that, and are we speaking of Western Christianity or Coptic Christianity?

This particular topic is far from easy to work with.

3 posted on 12/09/2012 2:22:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Bible says she was a good wife to Joseph in all ways. To me that means having sex with him. Many protestants believe that James was also her son—Father was Joseph this time. There were more as well. I have no problem with Mary being a good wife and mother—She is idealized for this. The Catholics must create the Perpetual Virginity myth to keep her as a demi goddess—to attract Romans and Greeks with a fertility symbol/Woman. They seem to forget the important thing is the Message of Jesus! The wonders are not the main point—they are just confirmations of his message and divinity.


5 posted on 12/09/2012 2:28:52 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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