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To: daniel1212; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; blue-duncan; CynicalBear
attacking Luther as if we follow him as a pope

I know you don't. I believe that the so-called reformation has been a disaster for the Western civilization and the low morals of the founding fathers of Protestantism bear me out in this conviction. The arguments in defense of Luther indeed at times are the same that could be used, and are used to justify gay "marriage", polygamy, bestiality or what have you. In all of these perversions the perverse side argues that freedom to marry cannot have a constraint. Further, gay "marriage" is very much the last nail driven in the coffin of our civilization, so the regression from Luther's shenanigans to today's bathhouse is rather a straight line. If that is unreasonable to you, I don't see how I can make it any plainer.

528 posted on 12/11/2012 5:37:01 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
I know you don't. I believe that the so-called reformation has been a disaster for the Western civilization and the low morals of the founding fathers of Protestantism bear me out in this conviction.

And the low morals of so many of your popes and priests bear out what a disaster Catholicism has been for the countries in which it is the dominant religion.

And we're still seeing the fruit of that today.

541 posted on 12/11/2012 6:38:59 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: annalex; daniel1212; metmom
Further, gay "marriage" is very much the last nail driven in the coffin of our civilization, so the regression from Luther's shenanigans to today's bathhouse is rather a straight line.

Malarkey! That "line" started WAY before Martin Luther was even born. Just read St. Peter Damian's Book of Gomorrah if you want proof. Is there nothing that cannot be blamed on Luther? How ridiculous can someone get???

564 posted on 12/11/2012 10:48:20 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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