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To: narses; metmom
The oaths taken by Luther and his faux bride were freely given and life long, just like a marriage vow.

The Roman Catholic Church allows "annulments", do they not? For just such vows entered into, your church has frequently "declare(d) the nullity of a marriage, i.e., that the marriage never existed. In this case the contracting parties are free to marry, provided the natural obligations of a previous union are discharged.". Not really life-long is it? In fact, if a person takes a vow to be a priest, his ordination CAN be annulled.

In the case of Martin Luther as well as his wife, they BOTH chose to annul their ordination vows and they have every right to do so - they are not slaves. They legally married in the eyes of God after leaving the Roman church and committed their lives to the spread of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Regardless if some people think they can't do that, apparently they CAN - even today Catholic priests do.

Rather than play judge and jury of a man who died five hundred years ago, why not just be honest and say what you really want to prove by your condemnation of him. Let God judge Martin Luther. Take care of your own soul.

364 posted on 12/10/2012 8:41:40 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

“The Roman Catholic Church allows “annulments”, do they not?”

A non sequiter. Your attempts to worship Luther are laughable.


368 posted on 12/10/2012 8:52:17 PM PST by narses
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To: boatbums; annalex
This really needs to be directed at annalex, who is making the issue of it......

So here, annalex, bb's excellent commentary on your comments about Luther and his wife not being free to marry. You can't pick and choose when vows are allowed to be broken or not allowed to be broken based on who the people involved are. It's either OK for all or not OK for all.

The Roman Catholic Church allows "annulments", do they not? For just such vows entered into, your church has frequently "declare(d) the nullity of a marriage, i.e., that the marriage never existed. In this case the contracting parties are free to marry, provided the natural obligations of a previous union are discharged.". Not really life-long is it? In fact, if a person takes a vow to be a priest, his ordination CAN be annulled.

In the case of Martin Luther as well as his wife, they BOTH chose to annul their ordination vows and they have every right to do so - they are not slaves. They legally married in the eyes of God after leaving the Roman church and committed their lives to the spread of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Regardless if some people think they can't do that, apparently they CAN - even today Catholic priests do.

Rather than play judge and jury of a man who died five hundred years ago, why not just be honest and say what you really want to prove by your condemnation of him. Let God judge Martin Luther. Take care of your own soul.

If someone is going to condemn Luther and his wife for fornication because they weren't allowed to break their vows and they got married anyway, they will find themselves condemning a vast number of people over the centuries.

374 posted on 12/10/2012 9:17:36 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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