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To: boatbums
"It's subjective."

It certainly is, but it requires actual knowledge of the subject too. The Renaissance is not synonymous with Renaissance Art. Church funding and support of neoclassic sculpture, paintings, and architecture do not negate the extreme secularization influences of the Renaissance as a cultural and political phenomenon and the resurfacing of the relativism and humanism of the "Golden Era". To deny that these in large part laid the foundations of the "Reformation" is nonsense.

Peace be with you

276 posted on 12/10/2012 11:39:09 AM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law
Deflective nonsense is your version. The 95 Thesis was not inspired by the Renaissance, but was more direct response (though many of those 95 listed, rather strange) to abuse of and departure from the sacred texts (and what things can be clearly shown therein) resulting in corruption of faith (in Christ).

All other considerations, are truly secondary. That there were political ramifications encompassing secular power and governmental authority in regards to/in relation to ecclesiastical matters is much dependent upon how those two (temporal power -- religious authority) had been long mixed by the Latin Church. If such came around to finally bite them on the b-hind, once folks were able to get their hands more directly (and more commonly) upon scripture itself, shows just how far the theological practices of the RCC had deviated from that originally handed down by the Apostles to the primitive church. So easy, even a milkmaid could do it.

277 posted on 12/10/2012 12:07:45 PM PST by BlueDragon (and this is one of those places where they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar)
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