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To: yinandyang
If the Messiah has not come than how do you deal with Daniel 9..... Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Dan 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment; and that until the extermination wholly determined be poured out upon that which causeth appalment.'

From the day of that declaration the period of time ended when Jesus came into Jerusalem riding on a colt. He was "cut-off" (executed)in the midst of the week (Wednesday) was in the grave 3 days (remember Jonah) and after His resurrection was denied by the Jews. Now most importantly the city was destroyed! The prophet Daniel said it would happen AFTER the Messiah was cut-off!!! Hello - THE CITY WAS DESTROYED IN 70AD!!!

22 posted on 12/06/2012 5:26:16 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: wesagain
Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city...

Seventy "Weeks" is written as Seventy "Sevens". This is alternately interpreted as being either 70 weeks as you quote, or as 70 x 7 biblical years of 360 days. The later translation leads though some abstruse calendar math roughly to the time period of March/April of AD 32 or 33. That coincides with Jesus' entrance riding on a donkey into Jerusalem - the moment at which he revealed himself to be the Messiah.

There is enough fuzziness in the language and math that I don't know if this interpretation can unequivocally be claimed as confirmed prophesy, however it certainly is interesting.

46 posted on 12/06/2012 7:34:52 AM PST by Jeff F
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To: wesagain; yinandyang
There are nearly 400 Messianic prophecies in the Old Testament. This link identifies 48 of them with the Scripture reference of its first being prophesied and its fulfillment: 48 "Dead-On" Prophesies About Messiah Yeshua. This link shows 365 prophecies: Y'shua fulfilled more than 300 prophecies.

Some of the most noteworthy of them, and which explains this "national" rejection is that the TRUE Messiah would be rejected of his own people:

Psalm 69:8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children.

Isaiah 6:9-12 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.

Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.

Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,

And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.

Isaiah 49:7 Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.

Isaiah 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Daniel 9:24-26 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

73 posted on 12/06/2012 6:58:40 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: wesagain; yinandyang
Also, only the true Messiah would have GENTILES that follow him. Many people through the millennia have proclaimed themselves falsely to be THE Messiah, but why is it ONLY Jesus of Nazareth that the Gentiles of the world (2 Billion)have believed in for two thousand years?
74 posted on 12/06/2012 7:04:26 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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