[AustinBill]

While a CINO laity is certainly a problem, the main problem has always been and continues to be the American episcopate who refuse to "clean house" and downsize the church by expelling its apostate clergy and laity, especially those laity in public policy positions.

Actions always speak louder than words. Obama called the bishops' bluff this cycle and we'll now have to see what consequences ensue.

[Hound of the Baskervilles]

Cleaning house does no good. It all boils down to lack of respect for authority and rules. Every one does what is right in their own eyes now.Nothing can be defined as wrong except for racism, sexism, homophopia and aquiring wealth. These are the only mortal sins now.

Dissenters don’t leave the Church. They remain in order to change and redefine the Church.

[Houghton M.]

The time to clean house was in the 1960s and 1970s. They didn’t. Fault them all you want for that.

The bishops today cannot clean house in any real sense. They can do it but it will have no effect.

They should still do it. But don’t kid yourself that it will clarify anything for anyone except those who already are clear about this stuff—you and me and those like us. For the rest, the bishops cleaning house will mean nothing.

Sorry to disappoint you but looking for a solution from the bishops is hopeless. The time for that has passed.

They should still do it, for the record.