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To: RFEngineer
"What we were discussing is whether the Cardinal said what he apparently said that you do not wish to acknowledge."

No one has denied that the Cardinal made a reference to the Slaughter of the Innocents by Herod or that the loss felt by those mothers is not any different than that felt by mothers in the Gaza over the loss of their children. What is being discussed is the acceptance that those remarks accuse Israel of being "Baby-Killers". Thre slight of hand being attempted when the anti-Catholicism in play became embarrassingly obvious was the deflection to an argument over whether the Cardinal actually made the comment that was misrepresented. Any presumption that the Cardinal, the Church or any Catholic for that matter, holds Israel's children less dear than those in the Gaza is specious.

As for denigrating the faith of anyone I only look for evidence of Fruit of the Holy to determine if there is faith. Where it is absent so too is the Holy Spirit and faith. I see precious little in your posts and the posts of the anti-Catholics.

184 posted on 11/22/2012 6:31:02 PM PST by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Natural Law

“No one has denied that the Cardinal made a reference to the Slaughter of the Innocents by Herod”

Incorrect. it was vigorously denied on this very thread.

” What is being discussed is the acceptance that those remarks accuse Israel of being “Baby-Killers”.”

Since the good Cardinal saw fit to only mention Children of Gaza, and mentioned the “slaughter of the innocents” which was baby-killing, your feigned indignation at the very slight extrapolation that Israel is slaughtering innocent Gaza children cannot be taken seriously.

If the good Cardinal had merely cast a wider net in his statements and seen fit to include Israeli children in the family of those with mortal souls, this debate would not even be occurring.

” I only look for evidence of Fruit of the Holy to determine if there is faith. Where it is absent so too is the Holy Spirit and faith. I see precious little in your posts”

I am looking for honest treatment of the subject at hand. I see precious little honesty in your posts, which serves only to amplify the error of the Cardinal.

I hope the Vatican does the right thing and corrects the good Cardinal’s errant thinking, lest the uninformed think that it represents actual Catholic doctrine, which it most decidedly is not. I also sincerely hope that when that happens that you find it in your heart to recognize the error of reflexively defending the good Cardinal when he used such poor judgement.


185 posted on 11/22/2012 6:47:12 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Natural Law
or that the loss felt by those mothers is not any different than that felt by mothers in the Gaza over the loss of their children.

The death of innocent children means nothing to some people as long as it fits with their idea of an angry blood thirsty God

188 posted on 11/22/2012 6:54:32 PM PST by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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