Posted on 11/21/2012 2:34:48 PM PST by Lera
Not a word was heard from the Vatican all the years Sderot babies were in mortal danger. They began noticing the violence last week.
Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, President of the Vatican Council for Culture, commenting on the war between Israel and Hamas, delivered a severe attack on the Jewish people: “I think of the ‘massacre of the innocents’. Children are dying in Gaza, their mothers’ shouts is a perennial cry, a universal cry”.
The Catholic Church high official equated Israel’s operation in Gaza against terror groups with the New Testament story of Herod’s slaughter of Jewish babies in his effort to kill Jesus.
(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
It isn't gullibility, it is cooperation with evil when one has a complete disregard for the truth so long as what is posited affirms the party line. Cardinal is a good, loved and loving man, yet none of that matters to those who would destroy him on their efforts to damage the Church established by Christ.
Those who deny the existence of anti-Catholicism need only witness the outlandish statements that are made on threads like this to realize they are wrong. It is an outright orgy of hate and self-deceit.
It is times like this that we need to remind ourselves that to love only those who look, think and sound like us is merely an exercise in self-love. It is when we can find it in ourselves to love the unloveable and and forgive the unforgivable that we begin to live the life of Beatitude taught by Jesus. Pray for them.
Peace be with you.
There will be a price to pay. It may take a long time, but that price will be paid.
So what else is new?
Vatican Condemns Israel for Attacks on Lebanon
July 14, 2006
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1665678/posts
Question: Why is the Vatican’s point man on cultural matters even commenting on this?
Probably to put some daylight between the Catholic Church and that awful, ignorant, inbred, Bible-bangin' trailer trash.
Talking to the Vatican News Agency, Michel Sabbah, Patriarch Emeritus of Jerusalem, said that the Gaza Strip for many years “has been living under the weight of an absurd embargo, which makes the daily lives of a million and a half of people inumane”.
Sabbah signed the recent appeal by more than one hundred Christian leaders who have asked the international community to support the recognition of the Palestinian State as a full member of the United Nations. Among the signers is the Greek Orthodox Archbishop Atallah Hanna, a self professed anti-Semite who blessed the suicide attacks against Israeli civilians.
Inexcusable! Absolutely, inexcusable. God WILL judge those who come against Israel in these unjust and willfully blind ways. I sincerely hope genuine Christians will not be swayed by the supposed "leaders", who, it seems, are in league with the terrorists. The Arabs - and that IS what the "Palestinians" really are - have no desire for peace and only seek to destroy Israel. Those who join with their evil intents will share in God's wrath when he pours it out upon the world in the end days.
Well, yeah, but I’d think that in a battle of wits between the Catholics and the bitter-Protestant-clinger crowd, they’d want their guy to come out on the right side. This is why they have (a) a foreign service and (b) bishops who actually have some responsibility over and knowledge of the area.
Does it even matter to you that the story is false?
I'm not here to make excuses. I'm here to laugh out loud. At you and your mouth-breathing pals who swallowed this hit piece, holus-bolus. There's no transcript of his speech, no context, no block quotes of any substance. The article is nothing but a piece of trumped up trash.
The headline alone made me crack up. Why are there quotes at the end of the sentence ...Israel is a baby-killer"?? The Cardinal never uttered that sentence. It's the invention of the author of this despicable garbage. Where do the quotes begin? The Cardinal was speaking at the presentation to the press of the Pope's new book "The Infancy Narratives" which deals with the early part of Jesus' life. He gave a lengthy discourse and according to this week's L'Osservatore Romano:
Introducing the third and last “panel” of the “triptych”, Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi, President of the Pontifical Council for Culture, presented the almost cinematographic technique of anticipation with which Benedict XVI begins his book: “in the ‘antechamber’ he voices a question that will echo in the face of the Roman praetor of Jerusalem, when the governor Pilate was to question the accused, Jesus. Póthen ei sy; “Where are you from?” (Jn 19:9). According to Ravasi, Ratzinger proposes four keys for understanding the Infancy narratives. “The first and principal” one is the interaction between “history and faith”, then between “history and prophecy ”. The third key is the dialogue between the author and the reader, while the last key is the “linguistic method”.
I have yet to find a full length transcript of Ravasi's remarks but they were, for sure, not directed at Israel. I'll keep looking and if I track them down, they will be posted. Not that it would make any difference to the pitiable creatures who flocked to this rotting carcass.
Lera deserves no shame for posting this article and it is outlandish to presume motives for doing so. If the Cardinal did not say what the article states, as you profess, then kindly point us to a link that gives his entire statement on the subject so others can decide for themselves whether or not he did. I noticed you failed to provide the proof. What "honest journalism" did you do before you jumped to the defense against anything that can be construed as negative for your church? Prejudice works both ways, does it not?
Had a Catholic Cardinal said verbatim..."Israel is a baby-killer", you know that there would be no shortage of TV and internet outlets who would give it airtime.
I've seen exactly one link to this piece; at Jihad Watch, which is where I presume the poster first unearthed this gem.
I'm suspicious about the quotes because Meotti, the author of this piece has been in the news quite recently for plagiarism, so it wouldn't surprise me if he played fast and loose with the Cardinal's words.
"I'm not here to make excuses. I'm here to laugh out loud. At you and your mouth-breathing pals who swallowed this hit piece, holus-bolus. There's no transcript of his speech, no context, no block quotes of any substance. The article is nothing but a piece of trumped up trash.
The headline alone made me crack up. Why are there quotes at the end of the sentence ...Israel is a baby-killer"?? The Cardinal never uttered that sentence. It's the invention of the author of this despicable garbage.
You can only presume that he "never uttered that sentence" so you can hyper-criticize anyone who did believe he would say it. It's not as if there is no history with which to back up such suspicions. Without a transcript you and your fellows "pals" are just as ignorant as those you rail against. Take a breather!
ping
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Yes, this is what anti-Catholicis has now sunken to. An outrageous statement is made about the Church or a Catholic and unless a Catholic can prove the negative it stands.
The really sad thing is that they believe that this is God's wish. Because God is Truth, those who choose to ignore or deny the truth ignore and deny God.
Peace be with you.
What precisely was meant by this is being given a certain interpretation by writers but clearly Ravasi is attempting to connect the Biblical text with the death of children in Gaza.
If he doesn't speak for the Vatican, then is his comment contrary to the Vatican's position?
I don't think it is helpful to the discussion to accuse others of stupidity, of being mouth-breathing idiots, tools of Satan or blatant, intentional, evil liars all out to hurt the Catholic Church. Such knee-jerk reactions at the slightest criticism starts looking like persecution or martyr complexes.
This is deceptive.
“The Vatican on Gaza: Israel is a Baby-Killer”
No, not “THE VATICAN”; 1 man in the Vatican and others tied to the Church. With no apparent sanction by the Church.
This Italian writer likewise implied Orthodox are anti-semitic by mentioning a single Orthodox leader amidst colorful adjectives.
When it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck, it is not prejudicial to conclude it is a duck.
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