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Atheists also claim George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were non-believing presidents.
1 posted on 11/20/2012 1:47:53 PM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
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To: CHRISTIAN DIARIST

Jefferson was not an atheist, but neither was he a Christian believer.


2 posted on 11/20/2012 1:55:23 PM PST by River Hawk
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All one has to do is read the Second Inaugural Address........


3 posted on 11/20/2012 1:55:40 PM PST by Godwin1
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First the fags and now this.


4 posted on 11/20/2012 1:56:26 PM PST by youngidiot (God help us.)
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The letter that President Lincoln sent to a Mrs Bixby of Boston during the Civil war strongly suggests otherwise:

Executive Mansion,
Washington, Nov. 21, 1864.

Dear Madam,

I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom.

Yours, very sincerely and respectfully,
A. Lincoln


5 posted on 11/20/2012 1:57:36 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Benghazi: What Did Baraq Know And When Did He Know It?)
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Washington and Lincoln both had a deep sense of "Providence" -- something very close to God -- but they had trouble professing specifically Christian beliefs.

Washington wasn't exactly a Deist either, but he had leanings in that direction.

Lincoln had something of an Old Testament view of religion that deepened as he aged. He understood judgment, but had a hard time accepting redemption.

7 posted on 11/20/2012 2:02:37 PM PST by x
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I always thought Lincoln was an agnostic. But since libs write all the books, perhaps I’m mistaken. And the idea that Washington was an athiest!!!


8 posted on 11/20/2012 2:03:00 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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So Abe was praying to his breakfast muffin during the early dark days of the War Between The States...and it worked.

...good to know, guess I should bake a few and pray to them for the removal of an evil Marxist tyrant trying to divide our nation into warring factions as well...

16 posted on 11/20/2012 2:10:47 PM PST by Happy Rain ("A white president eliminates black slavery--a black president reintroduces it but with equality.")
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Washington ended his life as a typical broad-church Episcopalian.

Jefferson was a non-Christian and was likely a Deist.

Lincoln was likely not a Christian either, but definitely a monotheist.

21 posted on 11/20/2012 2:24:04 PM PST by wideawake
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Jefferson did not believe in the divinity of Jesus. In fact he compiled his own New Testament. He edited out all references to miracles or any super natural events. What was left were the moral and ethical teachings, which Jefferson admired greatly. His edited version is called the Jefferson Bible.

Jefferson did not believe in the supernatural.


23 posted on 11/20/2012 2:32:29 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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The only Christian signer of the Declaration was John Jay.


24 posted on 11/20/2012 2:36:04 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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The only Christian signer of the Declaration was John Jay.


25 posted on 11/20/2012 2:36:14 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Nonsense in the intellect draws evil after it." C.S. Lewis)
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Baptist ping


31 posted on 11/20/2012 2:49:14 PM PST by WKB ( Remember "Bush Lied and People Died" Now it's "People died and Obama Lied")
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Actually, only God, Lincoln, Jefferson and Washington know for sure.


32 posted on 11/20/2012 3:03:09 PM PST by bubbacluck (I'll pay more for tomatoes...or lettuce.)
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My favorite quote of Lincoln was during a national day of prayer during the civil war. A group of Methodist ministers said to Pres. Lincoln, “We pray that God is on our side.” My Lincoln replied, “That is not my concern. But that we are on God’s side is my concern!”


33 posted on 11/20/2012 3:08:33 PM PST by tired&retired
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And Muslims claim that they worship the same G-d as Jews & Christians.

Whoop-tee-doo, whatever feeds your agenda, hijack it for your own. Bet that Lincoln was a secret Muslim, too.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 3:17:40 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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And to support their contention, they trot out second-hand quotes attributed to the rail-splitter.

The internet is chock full of fake quotes ascribing religious sentiments to Washington and Lincoln.

But it appears to also be true that there is not a good source for either of the anti-religion quotes in the article.

37 posted on 11/20/2012 3:34:41 PM PST by wideminded
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“Then little Willie died, the apple of his eye, his beloved son, his little boy. Lincoln was absolutely crushed. He was so overwhelmed with grief that he set aside every Thursday to mourn his death. He would see no one on that day, but wept and mourned and lamented the death of his son Willie.

Dr. Francis Vinton, rector of Trinity Church, came down to Washington from New York. He was a friend of the family, and was allowed in to see the President. Not wanting to beat around the bush, he told him it was not right to mourn like this over his son. He said, “Your son is alive in paradise with Christ, and you must not continue.” Lincoln sat there as though he were in a stupor, and then his mind caught onto the words that Dr. Vinton had said. He exclaimed, “Alive! Alive! Surely, sir, you mock me.” “No, Mr. President, it is a great doctrine of the church. Jesus himself said that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” Lincoln leaped to his feet and threw his arms around this pastor. He wept openly and sobbed, saying, “Alive! Alive! My boy is alive!” From that day on there began a change in Lincoln that even his wife Mary noticed.

His religious views began to dramatically change. There is a remarkable letter from an Illinois clergyman who talked to Lincoln after this time. He said this to Mr. Lincoln, “Mr. President, do you love Jesus?” After a long pause, Mr. Lincoln solemnly replied: “When I left Springfield, I asked the people to pray for me. I was not a Christian. When I buried my son, the severest trial of my life, I was not a Christian. But when I went to Gettysburg and saw the graves of thousands of our soldiers, I then and there consecrated myself to Christ. Yes, I do love Jesus.”

http://www.timetracts.com/Was%20Abraham%20Lincoln%20a%20Christian.htm


38 posted on 11/20/2012 4:05:58 PM PST by steadcom
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Atheists also claim George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were non-believing presidents.

What if they were? Would G-d cease to exist if George Washington or Thomas Jefferson didn't believe in Him?

As an American I revere our Founders, but I don't consider them religious authorities. My beliefs come from a much more ancient source.

39 posted on 11/20/2012 4:17:19 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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Ok, I can’t stand Lincoln, and even I’m not so blinded by that to think thT he was an athiest. He was close friends with Chiniquy and wrote to him on religous subject matter a couple of times, especially about the Jesuits.


43 posted on 11/20/2012 4:38:45 PM PST by arderkrag (An Unreconstructed Georgian, Forever in Rebellion.)
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“I cannot perceive how man can look into the heavens and say there is no God.”
Abe Lincoln


47 posted on 11/20/2012 4:44:12 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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