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To: terycarl
the Catholic church did not supress reading of the bible. "If you recall, all bibles, until Gutenberg invented a printing press, were hand copied and therefore extremely expensive. They were found in monasteries, libraries, royal households and very few other places. People would not have access to a bible until the 1600's. Since the Catholic church edited, wrote, saved, etc the bible that we know today, why would she have kept her members from reading it???"

My, my we have a revisionary historian here. terycarl, I'll address this after you have re-read the real history of the RCC and its hatred for the printed Bible. And, if you believe the RCC actually wrote, saved the Bible, you need more than a history lesson. The RCC has edited the Bible, if by that you mean altered it. No question. But, no RC had anything to do with writing it...please. There was no such thing as a RCC when the Bible was completed. Let go of the propaganda machine.

31 posted on 11/01/2012 8:45:03 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88; terycarl
"My, my we have a revisionary historian here. terycarl, I'll address this after you have re-read the real history of the RCC and its hatred for the printed Bible."

In a highly illiterate world, within which there was often no written language for the hundreds of regional dialects, there was no practical demand for a printed vernacular Bible outside of universities, monasteries, and churches. What few vernacular bibles that existed before the printing presses were produced by the Catholic Church. Those that cropped up outside the Church did not receive the Church's seal of approval and the Church rightly it known to all that the content was at least suspect and often heretical.

In its place was religious art depicting scenes, characters, and stories from the Bible. This art, paintings, stained glass, tapestries, sculpture, icons, music and poetry, taught and inspired many generations and provided a necessary mnemonic to the illiterate masses.

Tragically, much of this unprinted Word of God was destroyed by the reformation in its efforts to undermine the Magisterium, re-brand Christianity and control the hearts and minds of the masses (and the wealth of the Church). This was by far a greater hate crime against God and humanity than any measures taken to preserve the orthodoxy of the Word against heresy.

Peace be with you

34 posted on 11/01/2012 9:03:13 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Dutchboy88
"But, no RC had anything to do with writing it...please."

You are free to hold your own beliefs, but the fact that St. Peter, the first Catholic Bishop of Rome and the first Pope was a human author of two New Testament books is the most obvious proof that reality contradicts those beliefs. Other New Testament human authors who were Catholic bishops were St. John who was the Bishop of Asia Minor, and St. James who was the first Bishop of Jerusalem.

Pax et bonem

38 posted on 11/01/2012 11:44:22 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: Dutchboy88

“There was no such thing as a RCC when the Bible was completed”

Which raises four questions.

One, when did the Catholic church form?

Two, when was the Bible completed?

Three, who was responsible for founding the Catholic church?

Four, who was responsible for completing the bible?


43 posted on 11/01/2012 2:54:15 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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