[BlueDragon]

Nope, you say? You claim I didn't answer, by posing the question of "oral tradition"? Oh really? That's an escape valve, huh?

Not so fast Must we repeat,

"if even an Angel comes to you preaching..."

other than what was openly and widely taught, much generally covered in the Synoptic Gospels and the Epistles...

then where oh where did this tradition, this other info coming from the Christ & the Apostles first come to light?

Some of it is pure blarney. (which is quite grevious, being as it is so mixed up with actual Truth)
The fleshly reasonings & imaginations of men, dribbling out over time, over many centuries, "developing", or as those Catholics whom do know the difficult history beyond the usual apologetic put it, "unpacking".

Claiming it "was always there" (but without much credible framework) it just needed to be unpacked, so we could see what's really inside it.

It is quite interesting that this "unpacking' claim is utilized frequently in regards to those questionable, controversial dogmas, which then are of course, said to originate from Christ or the Apostles, but only by oral tradition, much of the time as I've previously noted, only surfacing two-three-four hundred years and more, after the time of Christ.

That is why I follow the lead of another, in calling it "the fuzzy infallibles" whenever "tradition" is relied upon as proof-of-concept for those dogmas not much found in the Word.

You may not realize it, but you have certainly delivered on your end. The typical apologetic. Which sounds good at first, but when poked at a bit begins to sadly deflate...

But not to worry overly much, eh? We still can rest in the assurance that Jesus was and is who He said He is, as deeply mysterious to us as that may be.

[PeevedPatriot]

No escape valve :) Just tired enough to want to continue this another day. Long story short, I don't hear that verse prohibiting oral tradition (passing on the oral teachings of the apostles). I hear it warning against the transmission of false teachings.

We still can rest in the assurance that Jesus was and is who He said He is, as deeply mysterious to us as that may be.

Oh, Amen to that! And thank you for closing out with that tonight :) At least that's all I will see tonight and what a great thought to leave the discussion on :) Deeply mysterious, what a great phrase to think about as I nod off!

[Rashputin]

LOL

Other than J N D Kelly no single individual was singled out in the post to which you refer. If you feel I was “making it personal”, that’s your problem. Perhaps the RM can point out where I improperly identified any specific individual other than the aforementioned author to whm you referred and I in return commented on.