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To: MHGinTN
What strikes me immediately is the inference that somehow the efficacy of Christ's blood is not quite enought to cleanse from all unrighteousness!

Catholics believe in the efficacy of Christ's blood! Belief doesn't exempt us from discipline, does it? Doesn't Hebrews 12 tell us that God disciplines those he loves? Chastises every son he receives? That discipline is what a loving parent does to his children? Do you believe this discipline means that Christ's blood was not efficacious?

if the saved have to go to purgatory in order to be 'finished' then God's perspective on Time is limited.

The saved don't "have to go to purgatory in order to be 'finished.' " What Catholics believe is that those of us who still clung to various sins will choose to undergo a final discipline (purifying, purgation, sanctification) before entering into the glory of heaven. And we think of it not as a period of time (it could be instantaneous) or a place but a state of further purification in preparation to behold the vision of God forever. And it's something we choose more than something we're sentenced to.

Whereas, The God WQho Created all has a temporal perspective which includes all of time, past, present, and future, so the inference that somehow when one is saved God can only cleanse from past sin is, in my honest opinion, blasphemous!

It isn't that God can't cleanse me whenever he likes. It's that I chose to cling to some of my dirt. Purgatory is his final, loving discipline, a great act of mercy. He's treating me as his child before presenting me to his glorious kingdom. And it is only because of the merit of Christ's sacrifice that I get that final sanctification or the entry into his kingdom afterward.

Peace be with you. Say what you will about us Catholics, but my parish will be meeting tonight for a prayer vigil as we do every Friday evening before the elections. Will you unite with me in prayer this evening, for even a moment, to pray for our nation? Thanks :)

23 posted on 10/26/2012 4:28:21 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left."--Eccl 10:2)
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To: PeevedPatriot
Absolutely, brother/sister. I am regaled in my soul to pray with fellow believes, cum brothers and sisters in Christ.

Peace be with you ...

24 posted on 10/26/2012 4:32:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: PeevedPatriot
I understand the concept of, "praying to help a soul get out of Purgatory".

But what concerns me most at this moment is: Praying to get this Nation of Purgatory.

What great sin did this nation commit to deserve such a horrendous punishment these past 4 years?

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, the answer is that a clear majority of us voted 4 years ago to put this pestilence in the WH.

Pray that the number of "Fool Me Twice, .... uhhh ... what was the question again?" voters is small.

26 posted on 10/26/2012 4:54:32 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (If my kids make a mistake in the voting booth, I don't want them punished with a community organizer)
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