[frogjerk]

In Catholic theology, torture isn’t only reserved for the eternally lost. The church teaches that even the saved will suffer in purgatory for their sins until their debt of temporary punishment for venial sin has been paid through their own suffering.

Wrong. Purgatory is where the souls that are bound for Heaven undergo a purification, not torture, because "nothing impure can enter Heaven"

[Sirius Lee]

the souls that are bound for Heaven undergo a purification, not torture

Ever been purified? Hurts like hell. Not "hell" hell, but think of full soul bikini wax. "RRRRRRiiippp". But what are you going to do? Beats the alternative.

[mquinn]

Purgatory isn’t a place anymore; John Paul said so.

[ScubieNuc]

Wrong. Purgatory is where the souls that are bound for Heaven undergo a purification, not torture, because "nothing impure can enter Heaven"

First, there is no purgatory mentioned in the Bible.

Second, Christ's death is sufficient to cover ALL of our sins. The idea of purgatory is basically saying that we still have to somehow "earn" our way into heaven. WRONG! It is by Christ's stripes alone that we are saved.

[daniel1212]

Wrong. Purgatory is where the souls that are bound for Heaven undergo a purification, not torture, because "nothing impure can enter Heaven"

This is open to interpretation, and some descriptions assert torment: “It is a divinely revealed truth that sins bring punishments inflicted by God's sanctity and justice. These must be expiated [atoned, be compensated] either on this earth through the sorrows, miseries and calamities of this life and above all through death, or else in the life beyond through fire and torments or 'purifying' punishments.” (INDULGENTIARUM DOCTRINA; cp. 1. 1967)

“I answer that, In Purgatory there will be a twofold pain; one will be the pain of loss, namely the delay of the divine vision, and the pain of sense, namely punishment by corporeal fire. With regard to both the least pain of Purgatory surpasses the greatest pain of this life… Therefore it follows that the pain of Purgatory, both of loss and of sense, surpasses all the pains of this life “(Aquinas T. The Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas, Appendix I, Article 1.).

As for nothing unclean, that is why Scripture teaches that believers are washed by faith (1Cor. 6:11) and only plainly teaches that they go to be with the Lord after death or when the Lord returns, if their faith is an obedient kind. . And i have dealt with those who extrapolate Rome's tradition of purgatory (which the Orthodox overall reject) out of some texts, as in this FR thread here or 1Cor. 3 (see here)

[metmom]

Jesus blood cleanses us from ALL sin. There’s nothing left to be purified from.

Purgatory is an unscriptural constuct invented by the Catholic church. Once you die, there are no second chances. You make your decision here.

Follow Christ.

Or not.

[metmom]

Jesus blood cleanses us from ALL sin. There’s nothing left to be purified from.

Purgatory is an unscriptural constuct invented by the Catholic church. Once you die, there are no second chances. You make your decision here.

Follow Christ.

Or not.