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1 posted on 09/16/2012 1:15:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama supports gay marriage and taxpayer funded abortion on demand up to birth.

Romney opposes both.

There is no way for a self proclaimed “christian” to justify voting for Obama.


2 posted on 09/16/2012 1:20:37 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll take it, though I would prefer conservative blacks wake up and leave the Dem Party.


3 posted on 09/16/2012 1:21:56 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Romney's Mormon beliefs are just that and he's entitled to believe whatever he wants. His Church changed their position on blacks getting the priesthood in 1978 and they discriminate against no one.

Obama not only believes in the gay agenda but has acted on it, even refusing to protect existing law, such as the DOMA.

Romney has personal religious beliefs and Obama acts against the law. Big difference.

4 posted on 09/16/2012 1:27:48 PM PDT by JPG (Make it happen)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will Black voters choose their party over their God?


5 posted on 09/16/2012 1:28:15 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Will Black voters choose their party over their God?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s time to decide which means more: your skin color or your Lord.


6 posted on 09/16/2012 1:31:30 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How about the difference between one that supports life, and one that will allow the brains to be sucked out of a fetus's head, and will allow failed abortions to just die?

Sounds like these African-American "Christians" aren't thinking this through very well, or else they aren't so "Christian" after all.

7 posted on 09/16/2012 1:31:33 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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The candidate with the fewest number of supporters who just “stay home” for this election will win. We can’t let that be us.


9 posted on 09/16/2012 1:32:20 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis fugit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some black clergy see no good presidential choice between a Mormon candidate and one who supports gay marriage, so they are telling their flocks to stay home on Election Day. That’s a worrisome message for the nation’s first African-American president, who can’t afford to lose any voters from his base in a tight race.

So Obama’s “base” is a race (black people)? Gee that is not racist at all!


10 posted on 09/16/2012 1:34:01 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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congregants are questioning the theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its former ban on men of African descent in the priesthood....

If they can't forgive the Mormon church for its past sins, how can they consider themselves Christian?

16 posted on 09/16/2012 1:53:02 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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If you honestly believe that the African American church community will not turn out just as much if not more for this election as they did in 2008, I think you will be surprised. Rev. Jesse, Rev. Al, Brother Charlie, Brother Elijah and maybe Sister Hillary have 6 weeks to paint the Organizer in Chief as the latest example of “whitey” trying to keep a brother down and they will flock to the polls. I would not be surprised to see a tearful and supposedly remorseful Obama show up at Dr. King's church confessin’ and witnessin’ all about his God. Of course it will be a sham but the undecided black church needs an excuse to vote for him. There may be at the most a 5% drop in black voter turnout since there is a remnant (God always has a remnant) that understand just how NON Christian this Alinskyite has been since his indoctrination in the Indonesian school. He has numerously referred to collective salvation. Glad mine was personal. I imagine the line will back up billions deep at the gates of Hell where collective salvation will be rewarded.
Make no mistake: the rule of thumb with the black vote is, First, color; second DemocRat (no matter how evil or degenerate), third, keep the pay window open. Somewhere around 8th or 9th they will finally get around to their religious filter but will have voted for Eric Holder's people's President by then. It will be the after thought as they leave the polling place.

It's sad to think in about 5 years the black community will be 1/3 the size of the Hispanic community. They lose more political clout with every passing year and then I don't remember the news bulletin from the NAALCP touting about how their numbers are swelling with a huge influx of Hispanics.

18 posted on 09/16/2012 1:56:51 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: svcw

Very well just cling to your emotion based ignorance. Anyone who cannot see the fundamental difference between Romney and Obama has simply weld their mind shut and refused to look


19 posted on 09/16/2012 1:57:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Moorings

Obama favors Gay Marriage and Taxpayer funded abortion on demand up to birth. He specifically had both positions written into the 2012 Democrat Party platform

Romney opposes both. Sorry Romney is not perfectly pure enough for you but anyone who cannot see the deep fundamental difference between the two is simply NOT looking.

Sorry your candidate of choice did not win the 2012 GOP nomination. Get over it.


20 posted on 09/16/2012 2:00:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No. They are not wavering. They will go for him at 94%. Book it.


21 posted on 09/16/2012 2:04:04 PM PDT by Jake8898
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’ll always be conflicted until they decide what they are — AFRICAN-Americans, or Americans. If someone calls himself African-American, I consider him a racist and not in tune with this country.


24 posted on 09/16/2012 2:11:51 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Moorings

Very well cling to your emotional ignorance and keep propagandizing for Obama

You can explain to God one day your actions. However, you will not be able to claim to him you were not warned about the results of your actions.


26 posted on 09/16/2012 2:21:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think many of them will in fact stay away from the voting booths. That’s going to hurt Obama.


29 posted on 09/16/2012 2:33:57 PM PDT by scottjewell
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I don't think the Black church is really that conflicted. They've been allied with evil for about fifty years and not blinked at any abomination the liberals have endorsed.

Black "chrstians" are followers of Martin Luther King Jr. and unorthodox liberal Protestant who rejected many orthodox chrstian tenets of belief and accepted all the liberal "higher criticism" of the Bible. How many of the rest of the Black clergy do as well?

By rejecting the importance of super-rational taboos in favor of a purely rational morality, the Black Church has shown itself not African at all, but a continuation of the eighteenth century European "enlightenment." So much for their alleged opposition to "western civilization!"

30 posted on 09/16/2012 2:39:00 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These folks need to be reminded that there is no religious test for holding public office in the USA.

There are plenty of good reasons not to vote for Mitt Romney (NONE of which outweigh the fact that he is not Obama, btw), but the fact he is a Mormon isn’t one of them.

Even Obama’s despicable faux Christian religious views do not actually disqualify him (although were he a Republican or even a white Democrat they would have), his communist beliefs do.


40 posted on 09/16/2012 4:16:13 PM PDT by jocon307
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Stupid advice by these black clergy to “stay home” on election day based on bad presidential candidates. Even if one is thoroughly disgusted by either presidential candidate (as I am,) there is still the congressional races that are pivotal. And in 4 states, marriage hangs in the balance.

Again, stupid, stupid advice.


47 posted on 09/16/2012 7:59:38 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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