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To: afraidfortherepublic
You are still lying.

Reagan was never pro-abortion, we know about the bill he signed for the health of the mother.

Your lie should be easy to prove, show us the public evidence of Reagan espousing his pro-abortion views, and then having a change of heart in later years.

As Mitt boasts, his mother campaigned as a pro-abortion candidate for the Senate in 1970, where are Reagan's pro-abortion statements, positions, writings?

Reagan never had a "change of heart" switching from being a pro-abortion man to being against abortion, you lying scum, because he was never pro-abortion.

You are lying about life long abortion supporter, Mitt Romney, also.

*“My position has been the same throughout my political career, and it goes back to the days of 1970,” he said. “There was a woman who was running for political office, U.S. Senate. She took a very bold and courageous stand in 1970, and that was in a conservative state. That was that a woman should have the right to make her own choice as to whether or not to have an abortion. Her name was Lenore Romney, she was my mom. Even though she lost, she established a record of courage in that regard.”*

The courage that he says she instilled may have been what enabled Mitt Romney to announce a couple of weeks ago that he was returning to his pro-abortion position, and was never anything but, and to say with a straight face, that he had openly campaigned as a ‘health of mother’ abortion advocate.

29 posted on 09/13/2012 10:40:09 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I beg your pardon. I am NOT lying about Reagan. I was there, & I was tremendously grieved over the results of that Bill. However, I (like many Catholics) believed that it would be over-ruled by Congress. And then we were hit by Roe v. Wade, thanks to the US Supreme Court. I’m still waiting for a change on that front while more than 50 million souls have perished.

To tell the truth, Reagan was probably influenced by Nancy and the sob stories that were floating around CA at the time and never really thought that much about it. He was worrying about his own budget deficit looming over him and the riots on the UC campus every time the Regents held a meeting. He claimed (and I believed him) that he didn’t realize how the “health of the mother” loophole would be used and was sorry for it in the long run.

I don’t know where you lived (or even if you were alive) but I can assure you that these topics were on the forefront in CA in the late ‘60s when he was Governor. Don’t spout off about events you seem to know nothing about.


35 posted on 09/13/2012 1:04:42 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: ansel12
Reagan never had a "change of heart" switching from being a pro-abortion man to being against abortion, you lying scum, because he was never pro-abortion.

Reagan dithered a long time before he signed the bill, which would seem to indicate that, while not "pro-abortion", he certainly didn't hold a non-negotiable, pro-life position. Abortion was only just appearing on the horizon as a national issue at this time and Reagan was a new governor. These two factors can be counted in his favor, as he was undoubtedly swayed by the "life of the mother" arguments.

Two million abortions resulted from his signature on that bill and even the bill's author said he was surprised by the liberal way in which it was interpreted.

As a result, Reagan had what could perhaps best be called an "awakening", rather than a "change of heart" and he lamented signing the bill. He subsequently espoused a pro-life position for the rest of his life. Whether he considered life issues, including abortion, to be the major issues facing America, is another question, however.

In general, the Republican contribution to the sharp end of the abortion conflict has been less than stellar, especially when it comes to nominating Supreme Court justices.

38 posted on 09/13/2012 1:32:11 PM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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To: ansel12
Do not accuse another Freeper of telling a lie. It attributes motive, the intent to deceive. It is "making it personal."

Words such as "false" "error" "wrong" do not attribute motive.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

54 posted on 09/13/2012 8:03:01 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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