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To: old and tired

to report a priest looking at child pornography.
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yes.
“ make examples of these people so that the rest of them will fall into line.”
...i’m ok with that. zero tolerance.
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...but how about starting with the school teachers,
who are actually abusing children,
instead of going after 1 priest,
for failing to report another, for looking at photos...

that’s like Obama cutting the budget, by not painting those National Park vehicles.
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and many studies show, that other churches have a HIGHER rate of abuse. but they are simply better at covering it up.
...and the government, specifically exempts schools from abuse lawsuits. ...when they have 100 times the rate!


7 posted on 09/07/2012 7:52:56 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Elendur
many studies show...

You keep referencing studies and statistics but keep forgetting to provide them.

You also keep defending child-rapists, those who shield them and the worldwide, centuries old institution that coddles them by tossing out red herrings left and right. One wonders why.
9 posted on 09/07/2012 7:58:25 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: Elendur

“How about about starting with the school teachers”

How about addressing the problem in the church rather than deflecting?

Don’t Blame Us, Everyone Rapes Children!™ - RCC


11 posted on 09/07/2012 8:00:44 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: Elendur
instead of going after 1 priest, for failing to report another, for looking at photos...

For looking at photos of little children in sexual poses. Those were human beings in those photos and the man looking at them is sick, sick, sick and doesn't belong in society.

and many studies show, that other churches have a HIGHER rate of abuse. but they are simply better at covering it up.

I don't care. Those Churches aren't my problem and they don't have the Truth. We are the Catholic Church - God's one true church here on Earth. Is it no big deal when your 15 year old takes a few hits from the bong just because the rest of the kids are doing it? No, of course not. It's huge. It's your kid. This our Church and we need to stand up and call these bishops out when they're wrong. Just like we would anyone else whom we love. Don't be an enabler. Lots of bishops deserve lots of jail time. Maybe they should be there with public school administrators, I have no idea. I fix my own house first.

12 posted on 09/07/2012 8:00:44 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Elendur; old and tired; TSgt; whattajoke; redgolum
....and many studies show, that other churches have a HIGHER rate of abuse. but they are simply better at covering it up.

If there are "many studies" that show both a higher rate of abuse AND show a higher rate of cover-ups, perhaps you could point me to a couple of them?

As I've said elsewhere, every study I've been shown of "Protestant" abuse included volunteers and laypersons. The John Jay Study did not address these groups when they looked at Catholic parishes. If we exclude volunteers and laypersons from the "Protestant" studies (thereby creating a "pastor vs priest" apple-to-apple comparison), we arrive at a roughly 1% abuse rate for all "Protestant" pastors, or (in other words) at least a four times greater likelihood that any given Catholic priest will be a sexual predator, as compared to any given "Protestant" pastor. And that's according to the numbers and studies that Catholics keep telling me about.

Let me throw in one caveat to those comparisons. I found something interesting when I broke down the "Protestant" abuse cases by denomination / affiliation / theological leanings. The more free will / Arminian / synergistic the theology is, and the more independent the association is (as opposed to denominational affiliation), the higher the abuse statistic goes - and conversely, if you just look at the Reformed Protestant denominations, the number of "Protestant" abuse cases statistically drops off the chart by comparison. It's only the average of all "Protestant" pastors that is around 1%. Some independent churches have statistics that are far, far higher than the Catholic average of 4%.
-- Alex Murphy, April 2, 2008

I have no idea what the actual proportion of pedophile protestant clergy is, but I would be amazed if it was more than a fraction of one percent.’
-- Philip Jenkins, author of Pedophiles and Priests, as quoted in the thread Letter about Catholics wrong about Protestants [re claim 10% of Protestant clergy are sex abusers]

"...the scandal was never really about the 4% abusers in their ranks. The real scandal was that 66% of bishops covered for the 4%, negatively affecting 95% of the dioceses in the United States - actions which cost the Catholic Church over three billion dollars paid in settlements and awards to the victims."
-- Alex Murphy, September 29, 2009


21 posted on 09/07/2012 8:47:08 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (At the end of the day, you have to worship the god who can set you on fire.)
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