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To: stpio
Are you talking about Roman Catholicism when you say Romanism?

Yes, it is one form of "catholicity" of which Hellenic catholicism, Lutheran catholocism, Russian catholicism, Episcopalian catholicism, Methodist catholicism (under which I was born, "baptized," and raised), etc. are examples of those who cling to the "catholic" form embodied in the baptismal formula, often incorrectly called "The Apostles Creed." which was formally written down according to Rufinius of Aquileia, about 400 AD.

Personally, I believe deep down of every article in it except that one word "catholic," which was invented as an invisible church, articulated, and first endorsed by the Bishop of Hippo in the same time frame as Rufinius.

You will note, though, that the first statist Roman religion came into being under Constantine as one method of unifying his empirate, and it was of the one ruled by the Bishop of Rome.

Hence, Romanism.

Practical fact shows that it is not the only global denomination, hence the term "Roman Catholic" is an oxymoron, dear stpio.

You will note that the word "katholou" occurs only once in the New Testament Majority Textform, and that in Acts 4:18, where its use has nothing to do at all with an ekklaysia.

With respect --

60 posted on 09/03/2012 6:00:20 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Suffer the little children to come unto Me, and forbid them NOT!)
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To: imardmd1; stpio

if one is going to opine about “romanism”, maybe it would be a good idea to get your “facts” straight.

“You will note, though, that the first statist Roman religion came into being under Constantine as one method of unifying his empirate, and it was of the one ruled by the Bishop of Rome.”

well, i guess you understand history as well as you do the greek language. the first statist roman religion DID NOT come into being under Constantine. ( maybe getting your history from dan brown is not a good idea ) Christianity did not become the state religion of Rome until 381ad and it wasn’t “one ruled” by the Bishop of Rome.

still researching my question on who has the authority ( if anyone does ) to declare the correct canon of Scripture??


61 posted on 09/03/2012 7:37:36 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: imardmd1; stpio

forgot to mention Constantine died in 337ad, 44 years prior to “the first statist Roman religion” being declared.

btw, the Church IS NOT invisible now, and has NEVER been INVISIBLE. Jesus established a VISIBLE CHURCH. if the Church was invisible, who did Paul know to send his Epistle to the Romans to?


62 posted on 09/03/2012 7:44:54 AM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: imardmd1

“Practical fact shows that it is not the only global denomination, hence the term “Roman Catholic” is an oxymoron, dear stpio.”

~ ~ ~

Thanks for the “with respect ~”, nice, means a lot.

“Denomination” is a Protestant term, there is only one
faith. Everything you, anyone, knows of Christ besides the prophetic in the OT comes from Roman Catholicism. You have
to look at history.

St. Ignatius, 3rd Bishop of Antioch used the term
Catholic for the first time. There is a hierarchy since
he was a Bishop. St. Peter appointed Ignatius to Antioch.

Our Lord is NOT returning “soon” to reveal everyone can believe what they want, why return? Prophecy, tradition and Scripture state He is coming to unite all to one belief, Roman Catholicism. The Remnant is Roman Catholic.

Skip all the disagreement and pray about the Real Presence, it is the pinnacle of the faith and shows true faith, one doesn’t see a change in the consecrated host. Believe Jesus is truly present in the most Holy Eucharist and you will make it through the times ahead.

All in God’s Will, some of the faithful will be martyred.


71 posted on 09/03/2012 12:12:55 PM PDT by stpio
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