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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

“Birth control is asserting your role to procreate as you choose rather than submitting to Gods plan for us.”

How does birth control differ from any other decision we make? Should I refuse aspirin, because God has given me a headache? Should I refuse to lock my door, because God has sent the thief?

My wife’s only pregnancy came after treatment for infertility. Were we defying God by allowing a doctor to treat her medical condition, making pregnancy possible?


8 posted on 08/30/2012 9:34:27 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: Mr Rogers
How does birth control differ from any other decision we make? Should I refuse aspirin, because God has given me a headache? Should I refuse to lock my door, because God has sent the thief?

The decision to not have a child is perfectly ok. But if you don't want a child, how does it make sense to engage in the very activity that produces a child, and then deliberately frustrate it?

A better analogy to contraception is a bulimic. She wants all the pleasure of eating without the natural effects of eating, so she stuffs her face and goes in the bathroom and throws it all up.

10 posted on 08/31/2012 4:18:20 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Mr Rogers
Your comparisons are ludicrous and have nothing to do with the subject. This statement refers to not using birth control because it hinders procreation which is Gods plan for us according to scripture.
15 posted on 08/31/2012 2:48:18 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Mr Rogers

The question is... Should a woman consume a carcinogen 21 days out of the month so she can have sex during the 7 days she is most likely to conceive?

The fallacy of the argument is that fertility should never be considered a disease that needs treatment.


24 posted on 09/01/2012 7:48:39 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Should I refuse aspirin, because God has given me a headache?

Is your fertility a poison, against which you must protect your wife?

Is your wife's fertility a disease, which must be cured?

Medicine and surgery are used to cure a disease, restore a malfunctioning organ to proper function, or in the most extreme case remove a damaged or diseased organ to prevent the spread of disease.

A chemical or procedure that damages or destroys a properly functioning organ is called a poison, or an act of mutilation.

My wife’s only pregnancy came after treatment for infertility.

Congratulations! As above, actions taken to restore function to a malfunctioning organ fall into the category of medicine and surgery.

Contraceptives are not medicine, they are poison.

Sterilization is not surgery, it is mutilation.

53 posted on 09/07/2012 10:15:55 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Mr Rogers

-— How does birth control differ from any other decision we make? Should I refuse aspirin, because God has given me a headache? Should I refuse to lock my door, because God has sent the thief?

My wife’s only pregnancy came after treatment for infertility. Were we defying God by allowing a doctor to treat her medical condition, making pregnancy possible?-—

A headache is an evil, because it is a disorder. A pregnancy represents the proper functioning of the body.

Now, an evil may be legitimately induced if the object of the action is to prevent a greater evil. Examples are amputation and chemotherapy.

But it’s immoral to amputate a healthy limb or to ingest hallucinogens, because the object of the action is simply to destroy or diminish the proper operation of the body, at will.

Therefore, the following “medical” procedures are intrinsically evil:

Sex change surgery or drugs (mutilation, poison)
Botox (poison)
Vasectomy/tubal ligation (mutilation)

Actions that thwart the proper operation of the body are also immoral:

Recreational drug use (diminished intellect)
Drunkenness
Bulimia (damage to digestive system)
Mechanisms that induce temporary sterility, “contraceptives” (prevent the proper operation of the reproductive system)

Humanae Vitae is worth a read.


56 posted on 09/07/2012 10:48:58 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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