[NYer]

So .. after refusing to invite Dolan to deliver the prayer, the democrats have now had a change of heart. Perhaps Dolan’s prayer will result in the conversion of heart of some of those present at the dem convention.

[Berlin_Freeper]

Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan better bring security.

[cport]

I’m hoping he will slip in some nice pro life references in his prayer, really knock em for a loop. I think the Dems may regret this...

[missnry]

The prayer at the DNC convention:

"Get thee behind me satan. Amen"

[Gumdrop]

I hope he brings along some holy water and an exorcist to assist him.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

This applies:

QUAERITUR: Why pray to “confuse” enemies rather than “convert”?

Posted on 29 March 2011 by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

From a reader:

Sometimes you write that we should pray for strength for the Pope but confusion for his enemies.  Shouldn’t you pray for the conversion of his enemies?

Okay.  Pray for conversion.  By all means.

Perhaps I have read 19th century English novels, Patrick O’Brien, and both the King James and Douay versions of the Bible enough that some of turns of phrase stick in my head.

“Confusion to one’s enemies” is a constant prayer in the Scriptures and it is what God inflicts on those who are doing something in defiance of His will.  It also came to be a standard expression in English, probably because of the KJV.

“Confusion” and the related “confound” are both from Latin, of course.  Confundo means basically “to pour, mingle, or mix together”.  By extension it means that, when things are poured together they become jumbled and confused, disordered.  Thus there is a moral notion of dissaray, intellectual confusion, ineffectiveness.  Someone who has been “confounded” has been thwarted in his scheme, has been demonstrated to be wrong.

This is what God did to the people who built the Tower of Babel: he confused them and their wicked goal by scrambling their speech.  In English, “confound” concerns making someone confused or defeating them, or even refuting a bad argument.

In the Psalms we have myriad references to confusion and confounding.

Thus, in Psalms 70:13 in the older numbering we find: “Let them be confounded and come to nothing that detract my soul; let them be covered with confusion and blame that seek my hurt.”

In Jeremiah 8:12 we have this confounded confusion: “They are confounded, because they have committed abomination: yea rather they are not confounded with confusion, and they have not known how to blush: therefore shall they fall among them that fall; in the time of their visitation they shall fall, saith the Lord.”

In Acts 9:22 St. Paul gets to confuse people:  “But Saul increased much more in strength and confounded the Jews who dwelt at Damascus, affirming that this is the Christ.”

And to the Corinthians Paul wrote (1 Cor 1:27): “But the foolish things of the world hath God chosen, that he may confound the wise: and the weak things of the world hath God chosen, that he may confound the strong.”

In the Douay Bible you can find all sorts of uses of confound.

So, in sum, sometimes I use archaic language.

But by all means, pray that the Pope’s enemies, after being confounded, be converted as well.

[Wuli]

I’m sorry; when a religious leader says they are acting in a non-political or in a “bi-partisan” manner, they ARE being political.

I have no objections to a political convention having opening and/or closing prayers.

I would simply have them - the prayers, and I would not have a “celebrity” religious leader give them.

Using a well known figure is a religious pretense of a sham, as if the prayer is greater if given by such a person.

Having a prominent religious figure give the prayers is a political act; it’s a political party reaching for political support through the prominence of the well known figure giving the prayer. That’s a fact and the prayer ceases to be just a prayer.

Sorry; it’s not “religious”, it is political. I wouldn’t do it. I’d invite a local Pastor from a Congregation in the city of the convention. All the occasion requires is the prayer, not a religious leaders blessing.

[bgill]

Doubt he’ll get two hours like the islamics.

[namvolunteer]

He should have excommunicated every so-called “Catholic” at the convention. I hate to say it but he’s a pillow-biter.

[fr_freak]

Ol' Ann Barnhardt has some interesting things to say about Cardinal Dolan:

http://www.barnhardt.biz

"Cardinal Dolan, along with the majority of the bishops and priests in the western world today DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, HIS CHURCH, OR THE EUCHARIST. Some of them, like Dolan, can talk a good talk, not unlike the guys who sell cheap Chinese cutlery sets at drag strips and county fairs, but their actions clearly betray that it is all exactly that: TALK. Dolan worships power, prestige, personal fame and glory. Dolan invited Obama to that dinner because Dolan, at the end of the day, is just a narcissistic politician who gets off on having his picture taken sitting next to the president of the United States, and being cheered and "liked" by as many people as possible, and he will sell Our Lord and His Church out for a tinker's damn because he doesn't actually believe in Our Lord or His Church, he only believes in the corrupted political matrix and cult of celebrity that has invaded and infested The Church. Dolan is a man completely focused and centered on THIS WORLD and HIS POSITION IN IT. In order to maintain his position, he will glad-hand and kiss the ass of an antichrist. He will happily preside over "gay masses", he will sell out the laity and "compromise" on abortion, contraception and sterilization. I predict that Dolan will eventually tell Catholics that they should "comply under duress" with the HHS mandate, and that it will be "morally acceptable" to pay for abortion, contraception and sterilization, so long as the Catholic "doesn't like it" and does it only "under protest". That cowardly chickenshit meme was floated just this week by Bishop James Conley of Denver IN HIS COLUMN in the archdiocesan newspaper. There is nothing more disgusting than watching so-called "conservative" bishops in the United States literally shit all over the Roman Martyrology - every single one of them, both known and unknown. "

[markomalley]

Only as an afterthought.

The real invitees are: