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To: .45 Long Colt
Amen this loud.

The Bible, not any preacher, God's very own word tells us that for those who try to earn their salvation by works i.e. trying to keep the Law ?

Well then, they have to keep ALL the law.

Yup, they have to keep every jot and letter of the law perfectly and if they break even the smallest part of the law ?

They break the whole law.

Therefore ?

They are the true law breakers.

I didn't say that, the bible tells us that, God's very own work.

Salvation is a free gift bestowed upon us from God himself.
Of course ? the law pushers ( Salvation by works ) will manipulate their words and craft it in a way to get out of that one.

The bible, not any preacher, God's word tells us that no man is made justified in God's sight by keeping the law.

But those who are already in Christ ?
They have already, yes, ALREADY kept the law perfectly in God's sight.
As far as God see's them ?
Legally ?
Positionally ?
Judicially ?
They have already kept the law perfectly since they have placed their trust, hope, faith, lives in the only one who can can could have saved them, Jesus Christ our savior,

YESHUA ! When God says Yes.

Can't be IN CHRIST if your trusting in keeping the law for your salvation ( that's what the bible talks about " being in the flesh, your own self human efforts. )

Can't be IN CHRIST when your in the flesh, i.e. trying to earn it in your own efforts, your own power.

Either your trusting in Christ's redemptive work on the cross, his atoning blood sacrifice, his perfect life, and his keeping the law perfectly.

OR ?

You are trusting in your own power ?
Your own efforts ?
Your own reliance in keeping the law ? ( and you HAVE TO keep ALL the law , every jot and letter of the law perfectly until Christ returns )...( for there is no more blood sacrifice, no more bulls and goats, or even Christ's blood can atone for your sins ( Hebrews chapter 10 ) unless ? you repent, turn from your ways, and turn to Christ alone ).

You can't have it both ways.
IF ? your trusting in your own works, keeping the law, then ?
Your NOT IN CHRIST alone.

THEREFORE THERE IS NOW NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS, who walk NOT after the flesh, but, who walk after the spirit.
Yes, read it there, in Romans... Paul says, that the LAW was weak because of the flesh, i.e. HUMAN EFFORT.

But ? if your are saved by Grace through faith alone ? and trusting in what Christ has done ? then your in CHRIST.

People would not need a savoir if they could save themselves.

Have to repeat this for it to sink in some people's minds.

People would not need a savoir if they could save themselves.
People would not need a savoir if they could save themselves.
People would not need a savoir if they could save themselves.

The Arminians think and believe that they had a part in their salvation.... nope, sorry, they did not, that is ? IF they are actually saved, since the bible tells us, that no man is made justified in God's sight by keeping the law.

If you think your saved by keeping the law ? you are not saved.
For it is by GRACE THROUGH FAITH that we are saved, and not of your selves, lest any man should boast.

The law keepers ? they boast about keeping the law, but ? are they really ?
Perhaps ? they are the worst law breakers of them all when they point their fingers at others and condemn others while are the same time hide their own sins ?
The " Man's Free Will " argument ?

Yes, Man kind did have " Free Will " at one time... the problem is ?
Man kind ( Adam and Eve ) gave up that sovereignty to rule this world, man gave up their free will.

Man HAD a free will before the fall, and now ever since Adam and Eve fell, all man kind has been born into sin and into a fallen state.

There is no inherent " Goodness " in the heart of men, no, even the bible, God's word tells us, that there is none that do good, none, that seek God in their own power.

IF ? there is any inherent " Goodness " in any man ? that man, woman, person got it from God.
29 posted on 08/28/2012 2:52:44 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Soli Deo Gloria!


32 posted on 08/29/2012 10:14:30 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: American Constitutionalist
There is no inherent " Goodness " in the heart of men, no, even the bible, God's word tells us, that there is none that do good, none, that seek God in their own power.

This is the REAL problem...people have been led to believe that "everyone has some good in them". If this is true, then the logic goes that we only need a little nudging to be perfect, or at least "good enough" to go to heaven. But we have already broken the law - we are ALL sinners - and the "wages of sin is death", not being good, going to church, giving money, feeding the poor, praying the right prayers, etc. NO. Only the shedding of blood makes atonement for the soul. ONLY through Christ's blood are we made as righteous as God - which is what we MUST be to enter heaven.

I wonder with sadness if the people who say they believe in Jesus and call themselves Christians - they say they believe He died on the cross for their sins, that Jesus opened the gates of heaven, BUT that they must "cooperate" with God's grace by doing good works in order to merit eternal life - are somehow by God's grace going to be saved? I have loved ones who do not believe we are saved by faith alone but they DO believe in Jesus and try to follow him. I grieve to think that they cannot be saved because they are not truly trusting in Christ alone to save them but who also rely on their own part in the deal.

I believe, of course, that God loves them far more than I do and He wants all to come to true repentance and be saved, but most people won't be. All I can do is trust the God who does what is right and just and continue to pray for people and speak the truth of the gospel. Only the Holy Spirit can open spiritual eyes to grasp the truth of what is said and written.

37 posted on 08/29/2012 11:38:01 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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