Forgive me, I don’t have much time to deal with this between family and work requirements right now. I will simply ask you, is it common practice for a king to set up a throne for his guests to enjoy? Your response seems to suggest that. No king would set up a throne for anyone but whom that throne belongs. No king would bow before anyone but one worthy of such honor.
Our Lord honors His Mother in accord with the dictates of His Heart and obedience to His Father’s Will. When the mother of James and John asked that they be enthroned by Jesus, He didn’t say He would—because kings routinely set up thrones for the asking... He said that position is already ordained. Scripture gives us a hint through Kings as to the identity of the occupant.
Really. This whole argument is a fallacy in itself. What honor do we have but what the Lord grants? What condemnation do we suffer but what has been proscribed? Is it because of our words or deeds that we are elevated or laid low or is it because the Lord has chosen each in his station? Mary’s station is that of the Queen Mother because she was chosen by God to bear the Son of David. We honor her not because she was a faithful human (though she was) but because our Lord honors her as His own mother enthroned at His Right Hand.
Jesus is Lord... then, now and always—in all times. There is no time He is not Lord. There is no time when He is not part of the mystery of the Most Holy Trinity. Mary was chosen in time to enter into that reality as the mother of the Son of the Most High. We have all been chosen as children of the Most High through adoption in the New Covenant and have been restored as the Family of God. It is a great mystery and the greatest love story ever told.
These are not trivial issues the Church brings forward as stumbling blocks. These are revealed truths of the reality of Heaven.
It is all meaningless navel-pondering
Read the bible, follow the 10 commandments (the ONLY actual instructions from God that I know of) and try to be a good person and help others.
Don't worry about whether Mary sits on a thrown or a footstool at the right or left hand of the holy ‘trinity’- does it really matter?
After a long absence, I’m back to look at FR religion comments. Workload and elderly parents take nearly all of my time.
**Our Lord honors His Mother in accord with the dictates of His Heart and obedience to His Father’s Will.**
Another curious tradition whereby you folks apply emphasis on His “Heart”. Jesus said nothing about his ‘heart’, because.....he would not let anyone think that there was anything in him ‘calling the shots’ other than the Father. He spoke a great deal about the Father dwelling in him, teaching, guiding, empowering him through word and deed to do the “will of the Father which hath sent me”. He also spoke of the heart of man, showing it to be a separate entity from the Spirit of God, largely disobedient, but able to be led by the Spirit.
The Word never refers to Mary as Queen mother. That’s man made tradition. John 2:4 and 19:26 are the only passages where Jesus Christ speaks to her directly; and he addresses her as ‘woman’, knowing in the future people would be doing all they could to elevate her status beyond what the Word had made plain.
The Christ never speaks of assigning a throne to her either. But, she mostly likely will be one of many sitting with him on HIS throne. Rev. 3:21
Mary was given a great honor in giving birth to the Christ-child, but she didn’t make more of God, didn’t make the soul of the Son, or raise him from the dead, or cause him to ascend up to heaven bodily. She did only that which her physical body could do, and was designed to do. Believe whatever ‘traditions’ you want, but I prefer to stick with plain scriptural facts.
Lord bless.