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Should the Bishop Have Bought the Crystal Cathedral?
Crisis Magazine ^ | 8/22/12 | Duncan G. Stroik

Posted on 08/22/2012 2:04:50 PM PDT by marshmallow

Three miles from Disneyland there is another famous theme park, which proclaims itself as “America’s Television Church.” The Crystal Cathedral, perhaps the first mega-church in the United States, is about to undergo conversion classes so that it can finally get the cathedra and bishop it has always wanted. The Diocese of Orange, California, has purchased the thirty-one-acre property and its four buildings for $53 million, a steal even in this real estate market. Realizing that recent cathedrals built from scratch have cost upwards of $200 and $250 million on the West Coast, retrofitting sounds like a financially savvy move. However, turning this prismatic beacon of televangelism into a house of God may be easier said than done.

Does this purchase signal a new role for Catholic charity: to buy up properties of bankrupt Protestant ministries? If so, there may be some good opportunities in the future. How does the bishop encourage full, active, and conscious participation in the liturgy by purchasing one of the buildings most associated with religion as theater? Begun as an open-air service at a drive-in theater, the church was designed around Rev. Schuller’s flamboyant preaching. Associated with glitz and money, it was the site of fancy and expensive holiday celebrations including trapeze artists, live animals for Christmas, and a lavish $13 million production called Creation.

Said to be the first all-glass structure built for religious purposes, it is associated with the feel-good theology of the 1980s. How to convert a building like this and at the same time disassociate it from its founder and his theology? Crystal Cathedral Ministries was a religion about self-promotion, and, appropriately, its main buildings were designed in disparate modernist styles by three well-known architecture firms: Richard Neutra, Philip Johnson and John Burgee, and Richard Meier. Each building is a personal expression....

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TOPICS: Catholic; Worship
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1 posted on 08/22/2012 2:04:53 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Oh jeez. From the title, I thought the article was about Romney...
2 posted on 08/22/2012 2:18:31 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Too many thinking Freepers have left the building...)
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To: marshmallow

The author seems to think that this former Protestant church can’t be re-purposed into a Catholic Cathedral, as if it is somehow permanently tainted. Strikes me as more of a rant than a reasoned argument.


3 posted on 08/22/2012 2:33:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: marshmallow

Not holding my breath waiting for a dignified and Sacred Tridentine Mass to be celebrated in that monstrosity. A Woodstock Mass, sure.


4 posted on 08/22/2012 2:33:14 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: marshmallow
recent cathedrals built from scratch have cost upwards of $200 and $250 million

It seats several thousand. If you can fill it, its a good buy. If you can't fill it, go and evangelize and fill it.

5 posted on 08/22/2012 2:34:17 PM PDT by marron
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To: marshmallow
However, turning this prismatic beacon of televangelism into a house of God may be easier said than done.

The Crystal Cathedral is a house of God. Hundreds of devout Christians worship there each Sunday.

6 posted on 08/22/2012 2:36:01 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: marshmallow

I sure don’t think so! It has been my understanding that Catholic churches and cathedrals were created to reflect the glory of God and as such were made as beautiful as possible. Have you seen the Crystal Cathedral? It is one of the ugliest buildings I have ever seen! That’s just my opinion and today, many modern Catholic churches are also ugly IMO. Even if they got a good deal on it, I think it is a mistake.


7 posted on 08/22/2012 2:42:56 PM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: marshmallow

No. I don’t understand it.


8 posted on 08/22/2012 2:44:57 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: marshmallow

the meaning of thhe church is much more important than a mere building. must have been a slow news day, ir the press is trying to stir controversy


9 posted on 08/22/2012 2:47:00 PM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: MomofMarine

If it’s really that ugly it should fit right in with other modern buildings which could not be any uglier if they tried, and I’m sure they did.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 2:47:43 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: marshmallow

If you want to see an ugly cathedral go to downtown Los Angeles and look at the Our Lady Queen of the Angels (AKA the Taj Mahoney). It looks like a giant warehouse. What a waste of money. I think it is good that the Diocese of Orange County is not wasting money like Cardinal Mahoney did. He insisted that his cathedral had to be bigger than Saint Patrick’s Cathedral in New York. Mahoney was a disaster.


11 posted on 08/22/2012 2:49:53 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: marshmallow
Crystal Cathedral Ministries was a religion about self-promotion, and, appropriately, its main buildings were designed in disparate modernist styles

Crystal Cathedral Ministries is a Christian denomination rooted in the Dutch Reformed Church that has numerous ministries and outreach programs. I disagree in many ways with their theology, but to say that the church is merely about self-promotion is grossly misleading.

And as for "modernist styles," how about the ultra-modernistic Our Lady of the Angels cathedral in Los Angeles? That could very well be the ugliest house of worship in the entire world.

12 posted on 08/22/2012 2:51:29 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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weak article; nothing new here.


13 posted on 08/22/2012 2:53:01 PM PDT by RBStealth
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To: Past Your Eyes

The Cathedral of Christ the Light in Oakland is even uglier...absolutely horrific in every way! I like the old-time churches and cathedrals. They encourage worshipfulness and awe.


14 posted on 08/22/2012 2:55:07 PM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: marshmallow

Excuse me, but our body is a temple for the Holy Spirit, a living sanctuary of God. Enough of this worry if a physical building is acceptable.


15 posted on 08/22/2012 3:01:26 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: marshmallow

What is it with the churches nowadays, these, whatchamacallit, gothic churches. Bunch a hooey if you ask me. All that expensive glass, huge windows, and fancy foo-fillerey, bah! Nothing but the futurist scribblings of a bunch of over-educated folks that went to expensive universities in France. What we need is a timeless style, something that goes back centuries. What's wrong with the Roman-style we used to use?

16 posted on 08/22/2012 3:06:32 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: marshmallow

“How to convert a building like this and at the same time disassociate it from its founder and his theology?”

Doesn’t Crystal Cathedral have or had a big statue of Bishop Sheen in it? And it seems to me that a bishop has a lot to do with how ‘to disassociate a building from its founder and theology.’ For good or bad, sometimes starting with a Catholic building from scratch and disassociating like crazy. So go find the most liberal bishop you can, ask his advice, then do the opposite.

Freegards


17 posted on 08/22/2012 3:20:16 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: marshmallow

yes...if the price was right...


18 posted on 08/22/2012 3:21:15 PM PDT by jimsin (B)
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To: JerseyanExile
The building in the lower photo makes sense. Looks solid.

Just think of the savings to be had for the much reduced need for window washing. It might be easier to heat and cool, too?

One possible handicap --- un-reinforced masonry. Build a strong enough frame, with joists going wall to wall to help then support one another to give support for when the grounds get to shaking, and one can build walls from a lot of things. Including multiple layers of bricks.

19 posted on 08/22/2012 3:33:44 PM PDT by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: marshmallow
From Meetinghouse to House of God: Reverse Engineering the Crystal Cathedral
20 posted on 08/22/2012 4:07:47 PM PDT by iowamark
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