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To: PeevedPatriot
An exProtestant, eh? Sad that you misrepresent Protestant Biblical teaching here. Really sad :(

Did the Catholic Church make you give up your eternal security when you joined? I always wondered how someone could go from believing we HAVE everlasting life, as Jesus promised to those who believe, to you can only hope you might. Or do you still know you are saved?

186 posted on 08/21/2012 11:22:44 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
An exProtestant, eh? Sad that you misrepresent Protestant Biblical teaching here. Really sad :(

I think I hear an echo in here :) Pray tell, boatbums, which protestant belief have I misrepresented? Not which have I disagreed with, but which protestant position have I distorted? Not which Catholic position I have defended in way you disagree with. I'd like to know which Protestant position you think I deliberately misstated.

Did the Catholic Church make you give up your eternal security when you joined?

LOL. Wasn't it Reagan who said, "There you go again."

I always wondered how someone could go from believing we HAVE everlasting life, as Jesus promised to those who believe, to you can only hope you might.

Lemme guess. This is your idea of a gotcha question, right? Because as an exCatholic, you are aware of numerous verses supporting the Catholic position. So let's say I pull out 1 Jn 3:15: "Any one who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." If I take the position that we are to conform our conduct to Christian teachings, in return I get the accusation that I'm relying on works not faith. That's how this gotcha question works, isn't it? Oops, I said "works."

Or do you still know you are saved?

Yes, I know I am saved through Christ's sacrifice for me on the cross :) And I know that He is a more merciful and fair judge than you or I could ever hope to be. I rest confident in his love and mercy. And I wish you peace :)

188 posted on 08/22/2012 1:58:24 AM PDT by PeevedPatriot ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left."--Eccl 10:2)
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To: boatbums
"Sad that you misrepresent Protestant Biblical teaching here."

That is a categorically impossible accusation because it implies that there is one "Protestant Biblical teaching" when in fact there are over 30,000 versions of Protestant teachings, each differing from the other 29,000+ on some point of doctrine important enough to cause a schism.

I don't claim that those who profess to defend their version of Protestantism in these threads speak for all of Protestantism and all Protestants. However, many here are marked by the clear demonstration that they prize their own intellect, powers of reason and individuality over faith and communion when they repeatedly imply that Catholics cannot and dare not think for themselves. The spiritual hubris of those who believe that their own powers of deduction are superior to those who sat at the feet of the Apostles and Disciples and the faith in the teachings of the Church leaves me gobsmacked.

Peace be with you

199 posted on 08/22/2012 12:12:19 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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