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Protestant or Catholic, we should all be in awe. Proof, you can’t call error, Jesus knew/knows perfectly what to say. Just think, how divine, everything He ever said was perfect.

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Before we look at an analysis of the Greek text, consider this basic point about Christ’s own words at the Last Supper: If He had intended to mean that the bread and wine were merely SYMBOLS of His Body and Blood, He would have said so. He was speaking to uneducated men who hung on His every word and who would build His Church. Since it is an undebatable fact that the Church believed in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist universally for 1,500 years it would have been utterly scandalous and preposterous for Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, to speak the words that caused this belief if they were not actually true.

And now, the Greek, courtesy of John Salza, which refutes the (contrived) Protestant objection that the bread remained bread because Christ’s “this” refers to the bread: “The Greek transliteration of “This is my Body which is given for you” in Lk 22:19 is Touto esti to soma mou to uper hymon didomenon. Like many languages, Greek adjectives have genders (masculine, feminine, or neuter) which agree with their object nouns. The word ‘this’ (touto) is a neuter adjective. The word ‘bread’ (artos) is a masculine noun. This means that the neuter adjective ‘this’ is not referring to the masculine noun ‘bread’, because their genders do not correspond” (emphasis mine). “Instead, ‘this’ refers to ‘body’ (soma), which is a neuter noun. In light of the grammatical structure, Jesus does not say ‘This bread is my body,’ as the Protestant argument contends. Instead, Jesus says ‘This [new substance] is my body,’ or more literally, ‘This [new substance] IS the body of me.’


119 posted on 08/19/2012 11:47:55 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
Did you copy and paste that from elsewhere?

If so, please give credit where credit is due. The writing, and the reasoning, even if you agree with it, does not appear to be what I know to be your style, judging not only from what has appeared on FR, but on other forums, too, under different aliases.

120 posted on 08/20/2012 12:04:20 AM PDT by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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To: stpio
Now I see you were quoting the article. All is well enough. That is allowed.

To set it off better, it could be good to use something more than just a
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particularly when we are more than a hundred comments deep, from an original article from a day before.

122 posted on 08/20/2012 12:10:58 AM PDT by BlueDragon (going to change my name to "Nobody" then run for elective office)
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