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To: stuartcr
Doesn’t God already know who and when, someone is going to have faith and find Him?

NO God does NOT know the number, IF He did there would be NO reason to have this flesh age. He did however, as Paul says know the ones who already proved their love and loyalty, they are called the elect.... Many are called but few are chosen. There can be no such thing as 'free will' IF the outcome is already decided.

21 posted on 08/14/2012 9:17:02 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
AND ... Faithful is He that calleth you, for He will also do it.

Of the many called, why are so few chosen? ... Because God honors our free will, and so few will let Him do 'it' (save them from their inherited self).

26 posted on 08/14/2012 9:28:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Just mythoughts
NO God does NOT know the number, IF He did there would be NO reason to have this flesh age. He did however, as Paul says know the ones who already proved their love and loyalty, they are called the elect.... Many are called but few are chosen. There can be no such thing as 'free will' IF the outcome is already decided.

Hang on there. God DOES know the end from the beginning, does he not? Before he even created the world, he already knew all those who would come to Him as well as all those who would reject him - this is because God is omniscient which means having complete, infinite or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding; perceiving all things. However, this is not the same thing as saying God predestines who will or who won't be saved. Why God chose to do it all anyway is a mystery that I don't think our finite minds are all that capable of grasping. It doesn't change, however, that God certainly DOES know the "number". If he didn't, then he would be just as subject to time as we are and he would not be eternal or infinite. He would not be the I AM - the self-existant one and he would not be the only, true Almighty GOD.

32 posted on 08/14/2012 10:33:17 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Just mythoughts

God knows the minute of each persons death, but He doesn’t know who will find Him? Isn’t God all-knowing?


37 posted on 08/15/2012 7:42:47 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Just mythoughts

Perhaps ‘freewill’ is really just a belief? After all, even though what is believed to be ‘freewill’ is exercised continuesly, how would anyone prove that that exercise of ‘freewill’ wasn’t just part of God’s plan or destiny, and had to happen that way?


38 posted on 08/15/2012 7:55:51 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Just mythoughts; stuartcr
scr>Doesn’t God already know who and when, someone is going to have faith and find Him?

NO God does NOT know the number, IF He did there would be NO reason to have this flesh age.

How does that square with Isaiah 46:10 ?
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
62 posted on 08/16/2012 10:46:28 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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