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To: MarkBsnr; ebb tide; Rashputin; narses
Where Peter is, THERE is the Church.

As much as I disagree with the disingenuous approach, I will credit the SPPX with recognizing the first mark of the true church. To the above, we can add: Where there are bishops under the pope, there is the Church, even if one is dealing with a progressivist bishop. Remember, the 12 Apostles included a renegade who turned traitor.

42 posted on 07/21/2012 8:44:26 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer; ebb tide; Rashputin; narses
Where Peter is, THERE is the Church.

As much as I disagree with the disingenuous approach, I will credit the SPPX with recognizing the first mark of the true church. To the above, we can add: Where there are bishops under the pope, there is the Church, even if one is dealing with a progressivist bishop. Remember, the 12 Apostles included a renegade who turned traitor.

It is one thing to recognize. It is quite another to separate from the Church on a spectacular basis. At that point, it isn't about the theology, it is about the individual ego.

It has been well pointed out upstream that if individuals were more concerned about the Church, they'd stay in it and contest the goings-on, rather than pull out and pout.

Again, I ask what separates Lefebvre from Luther, Zwingli and Calvin? They thought that they were the true Catholics...

43 posted on 07/21/2012 10:00:54 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: NYer
Remember, the 12 Apostles included a renegade who turned traitor.
Indeed. So should we blindly follow the Modern Judas types who promote heresy, who deny actual dogmatic teachings of the Church and who fill seminaries with left wing queers? Read "Goodbye, Good Men" by Michael Rose if you doubt these things happen.
46 posted on 07/21/2012 1:41:46 PM PDT by narses
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