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To: G Larry

Yes I do know someone...more than one, people that do not sin. It is actually easy, once you are really born again. The very nature of being born again is to no longer have the compulsion to sin. Anything short of that is diminishing the very real power of the holy spirit and is a mistake!


9 posted on 07/12/2012 11:32:01 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

You call God a liar by making a statement like that.


11 posted on 07/12/2012 11:39:29 AM PDT by Last of the Mohicans
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To: fabian
Yes I do know someone...more than one, people that do not sin. It is actually easy, once you are really born again. The very nature of being born again is to no longer have the compulsion to sin. Anything short of that is diminishing the very real power of the holy spirit and is a mistake!

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. - 1John1:7-8 KJV

12 posted on 07/12/2012 11:43:44 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: fabian

Go and sin no more is a new mindset that God wishes us to adopt. Yearn for the things above, yearn for a sinless life which will be pleasing to our Savior, but as others have said we will accomplish perfectly in our fallen nature.


15 posted on 07/12/2012 11:58:04 AM PDT by kingcanuteus
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To: fabian

You are deceived. You sin. Everyone you know sins.


16 posted on 07/12/2012 12:02:16 PM PDT by DManA
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To: fabian

So you know people who know longer sin. Interesting. And just how do you know this?


17 posted on 07/12/2012 12:10:34 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: fabian
Yes I do know someone...more than one, people that do not sin. It is actually easy, once you are really born again. The very nature of being born again is to no longer have the compulsion to sin. Anything short of that is diminishing the very real power of the holy spirit and is a mistake!

The Apostles could have learned from your friends...

So let's see...We can believe you or the fella on the video, or, we can believe the Apostle John...

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Guess who I am going to go with...

28 posted on 07/12/2012 5:57:31 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: fabian; G Larry
Yes I do know someone...more than one, people that do not sin. It is actually easy, once you are really born again.

Really??? I sure would like to know how they can stop coveting a new house, a car, a job promotion, etc. I find that if I'm really truthful with myself, I'm constantly sinning and need the Savior to help guide me past the evil intents of my heart.

Perhaps our Lord Jesus told people to go and sin no more simply to show an expression of graditude to God who redeemed us and pray not to sin to recognize our dependence on Christ.

29 posted on 07/12/2012 5:58:16 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: fabian

The only people I know who do not sin are God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. (Of course the elect angels also are in that category.)

All the others who claim not to sin have either scarred their souls so much that they arrogantly ignore their sin or those who feel so very proud about how sinless they have become, that they also have fallen into sin.


88 posted on 07/14/2012 3:30:24 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: fabian
Yes I do know someone...more than one, people that do not sin. It is actually easy, once you are really born again.

Wow. I guess the Apostle Paul wasn't born again. I guess he, even though he was the example the Corinthians were to follow (1 Cor 11:1) was a bad example. After all, he freely admits: "For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. " (Romans 7: 14 - 17)

Paul was still filled with sin...and DID it.

He goes on in Verse 19 - "For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."

Sounds like Paul is still sinning. Too bad you weren't around 2000 years ago to give him advice about prayer and being born again!

As far as Mary going and sinning no more...or being angry and sinning not...there are written in the imperative mood. That means they are COMMANDS. Commands are made by one party to another and are meant to be followed. HOWEVER, by NO MEANS is there anything implied by the imperative mood that it WILL be followed by the recipient.

"Clean up your room!" Is an imperative. It means my son should clean his room. And it means my son WILL clean his room if he's obedient and sins not. However, it doesn't guarantee his room will be cleaned and if he fails to clean his room and sins (dishonors his father)...he will still be my son.

If sinning NO MORE AT ALL was what Paul and John has meant...they would have written this in the indicative mood...which is the mood of certainty....not the imperative mood...which is the mood of possibility.

136 posted on 07/17/2012 11:22:53 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: fabian
Yes I do know someone...more than one, people that do not sin.

That statement alone is a lie in itself. You do not and you can not know another persons thoughts. What kind of church teaches this stuff? We are saved by Grace. We should "STRIVE" to be Christ like and not too sin. Sin becomes uncomfortable for us but yes all will sin and yes there still is forgiveness. You pick yourself up ask for forgiveness and try, try, again but on this earth you will not be perfect.

If we could live perfect without sin in this world then Christ sacrifice was in vain. Christ Kingdom is not of this world but His salvation offered us is our way into the next one. Adam sinned as did Noah, Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, and on down the line. These were men who were righteous before GOD.

I want to remind you of a verse Christ spoke of. Luke ch 18 9Then Jesus told this story to some who had great self-confidence and scorned everyone else: 10“Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a dishonest tax collector. 11The proud Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: ‘I thank you, God, that I am not a sinner like everyone else, especially like that tax collector over there! For I never cheat, I don’t sin, I don’t commit adultery, 12I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’ 13“But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’ 14I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For the proud will be humbled, but the humble will be honored.”

Should we deliberately go out and sin? By all means no. But sin despite our best efforts still happens. Someone cuts you off passing you, you are doing something and get frustrated, or you tell someone a lie even the least of one.

No not one person is perfect & all {except Christ} have sinned and all have sinned while living in the flesh even after being born again as we are in the flesh here on earth and will leave here in spirit. We should strive to be Christ like but we are not Christ.

What you are saying places upon believers backs something which not even the Disciples and Apostles could live up too. But that same reasoning then people must stay sick because as some Charismatics will say they lack faith to be healed. They in doing so torment the lame.

165 posted on 07/19/2012 7:08:37 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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