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To: Dutchboy88; RnMomof7
If you read the context carefully rather than beginning with a conclusion (exegesis not eisegesis), you will notice that Paul is explaining that grace is being poured out upon all KINDS of men, causing them to become "saved".

I read the context. It only reads the way you want it to read after some heavy twisting of the Scripture.

I don't twist Scripture. It's written that way for a reason. The text says all men. A couple versions say 'all people"--not "all peoples". The language clearly indicates all men, as individuals.

The context also clearly instructs believers to behave in a sober and clear-minded way to be a credible witness, and because that is what is right--not because others may also be believers.

Reading it your way strips all meaning out of it--All kinds of slaves should try to please their masters, rather than all slaves. All kinds of young men should be self-controlled, rather than all. See how ridiculous that sounds?

God's grace has appeared to all men. It rains on the godly and un-godly, on the righteous and unrighteous.

But, you did not answer my question about whether my previous response answered your concern about the prodigal son and "free will". Did it help?

Help what? I don't twist Scripture to make it fit my views. You never answered the fact that the Son came to himself and started his journey home by himself. The Father did not come to him to drag him home.

74 posted on 07/13/2012 9:12:49 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
"Reading it your way strips all meaning out of it--All kinds of slaves should try to please their masters, rather than all slaves. All kinds of young men should be self-controlled, rather than all. See how ridiculous that sounds?"

You have mis-read my post. I did not say "all kinds of slaves". I said that Paul was advising bondslaves to behave in a godly manner because God was rescuing all kinds of men, even their masters. You may check your own hermeneutic.

76 posted on 07/13/2012 11:08:57 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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