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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; Mr Rogers; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name

You are indeed guilty as charged.

If you actually read responses last week you would have seen that your questions and the argument behind them were answered, including that “like figure” does NOT mean type and antitype, with baptism being the reality, as is the case in Heb. 9:24 (representative of the true - look it up) which is the only other place antitupon occurs, but that both are representatives.

And which was shown you and dismissed, as is your fringe Catholic contention that Cornelius and company were not forgiven and born again before baptism.

As for your protest over my laborious content which refutes you, do you know how to make paragraphs consistently?

Go find another RC that agrees with you on Cornelius, as for you, this is it. Bye.


135 posted on 07/01/2012 6:35:42 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

LOL, the antitype will bite you every time. however you want to translate the Greek, the following facts about 1 Peter 3:21 can not be denied:

1. the verse says baptism saves us.
2. the verse only mentions “baptism”, it does not say “spirit baptism” nor “water baptism”
3. the baptism that saves us includes water.

it’s as if the Holy Spirit knew Baptists would come along in 1,500 years, so He armed the Church with one verse that just kills the whole “two baptism/baptism doesn’t save us” heresy right out of the water.

as to Cornelius, i showed conclusively that the Holy Spirit fell on the Gentiles and Jewish believers at the same time with the gift of tongues. the Gentiles had not repented, nor expressed faith in Jesus at that point since Peter was still speaking. they still needed their sins washed away, they still needed to receive the Holy Spirit and they still needed to be placed in Christ, and therefore they were baptized. the miracle of the gift of tongues was the Holy Spirit showing Peter the Gospel was for the Gentiles, as well as the Jews.


144 posted on 07/02/2012 7:17:27 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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