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To: libdestroyer
Linguistic literalists like you treat Scripture like a smorgasbord, almost always failing to discern the literal from the figurative.

"And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham for our father. For I tell you that God is able of these stones to raise up children to Abraham." Matthew 3:9

"Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." Matthew 19:19

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

"Who said: Ye men, brethren, and fathers, hear. The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Charan." Acts 7:2

"And when he had given him leave, Paul standing on the stairs, beckoned with his hand to the people. And a great silence being made, he spoke unto them in the Hebrew tongue, saying: MEN, brethren, and fathers, hear ye the account which I now give unto you." Acts 21:40-22:1

"Therefore is it of faith, that according to grace the promise might be firm to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (As it is written: I have made thee a father of many nations,) before God, whom he believed, who quickeneth the dead; and calleth those things that are not, as those that are." Romans 4:16-17

"I write not these things to confound you; but I admonish you as my dearest children. For if you have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet not many fathers. For in Christ Jesus, by the gospel, I have begotten you." 1 Corinthians 4:14-15

"As you know in what manner, entreating and comforting you, (as a father doth his children,)" 1 Thessalonians 2:11

"To Timothy, his beloved son in faith. Grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father, and from Christ Jesus our Lord." 1 Timothy 1:2

"To Titus my beloved son, according to the common faith, grace and peace from God the Father, and from Christ Jesus our Savior." Titus 1:4

"I beseech thee for my son, whom I have begotten in my bands, Onesimus," Philemon 1:10

"Persevere under discipline. God dealeth with you as with His sons; for what son is there, whom the father doth not correct? But if you be without chastisement, whereof all are made partakers, then are you bastards, and not sons. Moreover we have had fathers of our flesh, for instructors, and we reverenced them: shall we not much more obey the Father of spirits, and live?" Hebrews 12:7-9

"I write unto you, fathers, because you have known Him, who is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because you have overcome the wicked one." 1 John 2:13

Here are two more which you conveniently ignore as well:

"Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but the holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:20-21

"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16

32 posted on 06/26/2012 8:28:30 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Here are two more which you conveniently ignore as well:

This Religion Forum thread is labeled "ecumenical" meaning NO antagonism is tolerable. Also, reading minds is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

33 posted on 06/26/2012 8:38:38 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The scripture you gave me refers to literal fathers. My issue is calling someone a “Holy Father.” I could use the “smorgasbord” argument to those in the RCC too. Maybe it’s best not to attack me on those grounds.


36 posted on 06/26/2012 8:43:54 AM PDT by libdestroyer
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