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To: Springfield Reformer

Actually I trust the Church that Christ established, and gave authority to, the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. Holy Scripture is her work product; she wrote, selected, preserved it, and she’s responsible for its interpretation in key matters.

Such as the Most Holy Trinity, the Nicene Creed that you mentioned earlier.

Obviously I think sola scriptura a far inferior doctrine - each person his own authority. Not what Christ established, not a method for transmitting what He taught, most certainly a method that cannot result in one holy catholic and apostolic church.

Summarizing again, sola scriptura is unbiblical, unhistorical and impractical.

Other than that, you are welcome to it!

:)


385 posted on 06/30/2012 1:14:20 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

“I trust the Church”

What? Your church has no people in it? I say it does, and thus your doctrine comes from a man, or a group of men, who have made a claim to authority.

I asked you this before, but you either missed or ignored it. I’ll rephrase it. How did you personally determine whether the Roman claim to authority is correct? Was it just an intuition you had, or did someone reason you into it, or what? And if some such event occurred, in you personally, how do you personally know you made the right determination?

My point is this. Somewhere in there, you had to choose to believe what someone told you. That makes your whole argument against private judgment inconsistent with your own experience, and with ours.

You see, we Sola Scriptura folks would love to bypass private judgment and tap directly into some infallible transmission of the mind of God to each of us personally. As much as your framework tries to deny it, we do love God, and wish to be as connected to him as possible.

But to be honest with ourselves, we have confronted the harsh reality that in this imperfect life, when any of us believes anything, it is because we have adjudicated truth, and being fallible, we always have the possibility of being wrong.

In fact, you are asking us to do that now. You are asking us to determine that you are right. That determination would also be a private judgment, and just as likely to be wrong as anything else we ever chose to believe, because we are fallible, and if we believe you, we just might be wrong.

So throw us a bone here. At least admit that you have read this inquiry about private judgment, and that you either have no answer for it, or show us some brilliant new solution no one has ever told us before on how to believe, without first privately adjudicating the truth of the thing to be believed.

Otherwise, Sola Scriptura, Sola Ecclesia, Sola D-Fendr, it’s all the same. We must decide, and from your own stated rejection of God granting belief, where else can that decision begin, but in us?


387 posted on 06/30/2012 2:45:09 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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