Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: what's up
Yes, I think Mary and Moses had a choice. Just as we have choices to say yes or no to God. We don't have quite the import as they, but choices nonetheless.

Faith comes because God creates it.

Hmm. Ok. Does God choose to give this faith to some and withhold it from others - before we/they are born?

Sometimes He has to work to convince.

Hard, easy, that's just a dance isn't it? The outcome is the same either way, yes?

The idea of "convince" becomes moot here. They get the faith and the grace, it's all irresistable - no matter what, yes?

That God brings faith doesn't mean we're robots.

That we have no choice or our choices do not matter, or our choices are all predetermined before we're born - that makes us robots.

233 posted on 06/25/2012 3:00:52 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 232 | View Replies ]


To: D-fendr
Read the story of Moses again.

You won't find that he has much choice in the matter.

236 posted on 06/25/2012 3:28:04 PM PDT by what's up
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 233 | View Replies ]

To: D-fendr
That we have no choice or our choices do not matter, or our choices are all predetermined

Our choices are for sin. We in ourselves are against God. So they matter, yes.

But due to God's grace which was in operation even before the foundation of the earth (Eph 1:8) we are steered to a different path.

237 posted on 06/25/2012 3:31:06 PM PDT by what's up
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 233 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson