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To: what's up

“Many a man, for example, has wooed a woman into loving him.

Not forced, but wooed.”

~ ~ ~

Calvin’s “irresistable” grace is amount to wooing? And, only a select are wooed?

Those two words do not mean the same.


227 posted on 06/25/2012 1:59:37 PM PDT by stpio
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One heresy will mess up other areas of belief. I’ll show you how it goes back to the robot business. I am speaking about Martin Luther’s “faith alone.”

We are not robots, it is always our choice, our cooperation
with God’s grace to do a good or not to do one. I marked
the CAPs in the quote. Yes, we choose Heaven or Hell.

_ _ _

“Some Protestants insist that it is the faith that does the work in us not we ourselves.

Faith (God’s gift to man through His Word / Eph 2:8; Rom 10: 17) is a necessary motivation for us to obey but it DOES NOT make us obey. Man has a choice to resist or yield, therefore the obedience is our responsibility. It is our obedience in response to faith that brings justification (and Eternal Life). Justification then brings “perfect” or “complete” faith, the proof we have that Eternal Life (See John 3:36!). Further, Eternal Life is something we possess in degrees and that corresponds to how close we have grown to Christ. It is Eternal Life we are given NOT a promise of the eternal possession of that life. That Life, however, is so powerful that nothing in all the universe, but one’s own SELF WILL and SIN, can remove us from Christ’s hand (Romans 8:35-39).


228 posted on 06/25/2012 2:01:45 PM PDT by stpio
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It's not a perfect example, obviously, but I showed you how action on the part of one party can cause love in the other.

It doesn't mean the 2nd party is a "robot" as you put it.

It means the 1st party knows how to convince and create belief in the other.

229 posted on 06/25/2012 2:04:53 PM PDT by what's up
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