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To: what's up

“It’s not at odds.

The baby would be born to Mary whatever she said/did. This was not up to her.

One cannot choose or un-choose God’s will.

The irresistable grace worked on her will.”

~ ~ ~

Reject Calvinism, it’s not true. Calvin uses “his” new
term “irresistable” grace to cover his rejection of free will.

I wish I could convince you. We are not robots. You can’t force someone to love you, that’s not true love. God desires our true love.

Eve was without sin like Mary until she freely chose to sin. Mary was/is without sin. Why would God give Eve a choice -free will- and not Mary? Mary decides once she ponders and asks the archangel, how could this happen? Mary then gives her fiat.

Luke 1:38
And Mary said: Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done to me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.


221 posted on 06/25/2012 1:18:58 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
You can’t force someone to love you, that’s not true love

Many a man, for example, has wooed a woman into loving him.

Not forced, but wooed.

Large difference.

224 posted on 06/25/2012 1:43:29 PM PDT by what's up
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