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To: Iscool
Let me run it for you: 1) Nothing unclean can enter heaven.

2) There is sin that does not kill the soul.

3) Jesus went to the souls in Prison. we know that his was neither heaven nor Hell. Clearly a third state. You want to call it the bosom of Abraham, great knock yourself out. What ever you call it, it was clearly a third state.

4) We know that Moses and Elijah both appeared and were visible to the Apostles on the mount of Transfiguration.

5) From the Story of Lazarus (The beggar) and the rich man, we know that there is a gulf that no human can cross.

6) we also know from the Book of Maccabees that the Jews prayed and made offerings for the dead. Now I know that you don't believe that this is an inspired work, but from a historical perspective it does show the Jewish religious practice. Those in Heaven don't need the prayers, they are not efficacious for those in Hell. Clearly they are offered for those in the third state.

79 posted on 06/18/2012 7:02:30 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: verga
Let me run it for you: 1) Nothing unclean can enter heaven.

You're not going to run anything for me...

Nothing unclean can enter heaven...And that's why Jesus died...To make us clean...We Christians not only can enter heaven, but we are already spiritually seated in heaven...

1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

3) Jesus went to the souls in Prison. we know that his was neither heaven nor Hell. Clearly a third state. You want to call it the bosom of Abraham, great knock yourself out.

Are you speaking to me, or God...He's the one who coined the phrase...

Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

I don't know about your 3rd state...Heaven, Hell and Abraham's Bosom are not states...They are places...

And yes, there is a 3rd place...But the gates are unlocked and wide open...There's no one there and no one is going there in the near future and no one has been there since Jesus cleared it out...

Those in Heaven don't need the prayers, they are not efficacious for those in Hell. Clearly they are offered for those in the third state.

There is no one in the 3rd state...Jesus took all to heaven...Your 3rd state is a ghost town, with no ghosts...

People went to this so-called 3rd state because they couldn't go to heaven since Jesus had not descended and then ascended to Heaven...

NOW, everyone who is saved goes directly to Heaven...

Stop with these man-made fantasies and read what God really has to say about it...

80 posted on 06/18/2012 8:02:31 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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