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To: Jeff Head

1838, Joseph Smith was arrested for Treason against the United States.

There were reasons that people wanted mormons to move on.

Your links are an interesting interpretation of mormon history by mormons.


175 posted on 06/10/2012 6:15:28 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Treason is an easy charge to sustain when a person is standing against the official EO 44 of the State of Missouri at the time which called for the Extermination or Expulsion of a whole relgion of people...taking all their lands and possessions if they did not leave by a particular date, and being able to exterminate them with government sanction.

Is that really what you want to defend, svcw?

Standing against such official government orders was considered treason...but if an order was made today against your church svcw, I expect you would commit treason against it too.

Sort of like the liberals claiming Cheney and Rumsfeld were traitors.

You are so invested in your dislike for and fight against the LDS Church that you are willing to side with and call good a horrible example of religious bigotry and intolerance that occurred in our own nation, supported to the highest levels of a couple of state governments. But please, do not try to associate that charge...for the which he was never convicted...against people who were fighting for their rights to property and life at the time and to worship as they so chose.

Despite the issue that people had with the Church of its policy over Priesthood and the blacks, the Church was openly in favor of abolition in America...and truth be known, this was probably as important a reason as any other for why they were so persecuted in Missouri at that time as anything else.

But, like I said, you are so invested in your stance that you will pass that off as nothing, overlook it, and continue to defend the indefensable...sort of like you want to claim the LDS CHurch does over the topic of this thread, despite the Church’s official apology for any involvement its members had over it.

In 1976 I believe (possibly later), that old Extermination Order was finally removed from the state of Missouri’s books, and within the last year, the Governor of Missour, at the ceremony opening the new LDS Temple in Missouri, finally uttered as Governor an apology for what happened back then.

It was terrible on both sides and there is no excuse for it...though you continue to make them for what happened in Missouri and Illinois, and then demand there be non for Mountain Meadows.

You are absoultely correct in the latter, but terribly mistaken in the former. Truth is, there is no viable excuse for any such persecutions, pillaging, atrocities and murder.

I pray you have a good Sunday and remember the love of our Savior and His admonisiton to love others as He loved us. I will try and do the same this day, and always.


176 posted on 06/10/2012 7:30:14 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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