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but we understand that there exists a race of souls which is termed ‘Israel,’ as is indicated by the interpretation of the name itself: for Israel is interpreted to mean a ‘mind,’ or ‘man seeing God.’

Apparently, Origen missed Genesis 32:28

And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

The name "Israel", therefore, means "God prevails" and "contender" or "soldier of God". As it was used for Jacob and the twelve tribes that came from his twelve sons, it meant "Prince of God". Not sure where Origen got the idea that it meant "mind" OR "man seeing God", but his strange interpretation of the name Jehovah gave to Jacob and his descendants explains how he could then imagine that God would break His promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. To say that the Jews will never be restored to their former condition also distorts God's plans as He has clearly told us. An everlasting covenant is everlasting.

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"And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed." Strong's Dictionary adds this...a very powerful thought...you are correct, Origen did not understand... yiśrâ'êl yis-raw-ale' From H8280 and H410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: - Israel.

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My post to you was to say... Strong's Dictionary adds this...a very powerful thought... yiśrâ'êl yis-raw-ale' From H8280 and H410; he will rule as God; Jisrael, a symbolical name of Jacob; also (typically) of his posterity: - Israel. What you posted is correct. Origen did not understand.

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Great info, thanks.