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To: Titanites
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I didn't say that the RCC doesn't consider the UCC in unity with them.

I said that the RC's and the UC's don't consider each other *real* Catholics. It isn't a matter of the official church position being that of unity, it's a matter of the lay Catholics who are not unified.

Do try some reading comprehension lessons.

Catholics do consider the Ukrainian Greek Catholics to be real Catholics.

Maybe the ones YOU know. It's not an opinion that is universally held.

613 posted on 06/11/2012 9:10:31 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
I didn't say that the RCC doesn't consider the UCC in unity with them.

Yes, you did. In 353 you said the churches had "labels" slapped on them specifying what they were, that neither considered the other legit, concluding with "so much for unity within Catholicism".

I said that the RC's and the UC's don't consider each other *real* Catholics. It isn't a matter of the official church position being that of unity, it's a matter of the lay Catholics who are not unified.

Here's what you really said in 431: "Roman Catholics didn’t consider them *real* Catholics. Borderline, sort of maybe, but pretty iffy about getting in. Better than Orthodox or Protestants however."

There was no mention of "lay Catholics not being unified," which is something you just added.

Catholics do consider the Ukrainian Greek Catholics to be real Catholics.

Maybe the ones YOU know. It's not an opinion that is universally held.

It is the universally held position of both churches. The only ones claimed not to believe that are through rumor and hearsay.

619 posted on 06/11/2012 9:32:52 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: metmom
It's not an opinion that is universally held.

That is a pretty disingenuous game to play.

I could make the claim that Protestants believe Satan drives an ice cream truck in Loma Linda for a living.

Although my comment might be based on what 2 drunks who claim to be Protestants told me they saw, the fact is that Protestants in general don't believe that. And to claim that Protestants do believe that, based on the hearsay of 2 people, is dishonest.

627 posted on 06/11/2012 10:37:47 PM PDT by Titanites
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To: metmom
"It's not an opinion that is universally held."

Name just one universally held "0pinion".

Peace be with you

628 posted on 06/11/2012 10:48:37 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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