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To: Titanites; daniel1212

When all else fails, accuse the other person of making stuff up. A typical Catholic’s tactic of last resort.

Roman Catholics didn’t consider them *real* Catholics. Borderline, sort of maybe, but pretty iffy about getting in. Better than Orthodox or Protestants however.

Ukrainian Catholics rightly perceived the spiritual snobbery of the Roman Catholics who looked down their noses at them as being not quite good enough.

Hardly unity within Catholicism.

Thanks, daniel, for the information provided on Ukrainian Catholicism.


431 posted on 06/09/2012 7:10:16 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
When all else fails, accuse the other person of making stuff up. A typical Catholic’s tactic of last resort.

The truth is not a last resort.

Roman Catholics didn’t consider them *real* Catholics.

Again, you've presented no evidence to support your claim.

Ukrainian Catholics rightly perceived the spiritual snobbery

What "spiritual snobbery"? What are you talking about?

Roman Catholics who looked down their noses at them as being not quite good enough.

Can you please provide specific examples of which Latin Catholics looked down their noses at Ukraininan Catholic?

Hardly unity within Catholicism.

The Ukrainian Catholic Church is fully Catholic and is in full communion (unity) with the Pope. They abide by the same dogma.

information provided on Ukrainian Catholicism

The article, from 1976, does not provide evidence that the Ukrainian Catholics aren't in full communion with the pope. It also does not prove your original claim that "the Roman Catholics don't consider Ukrainian Catholics quite good enough," whatever that is supposed to mean.

Ukrainian Catholics are in full communion with the Church, no matter how much some bitter ex-Catholics might wish it to be otherwise.

    Divine Liturgy Celebrated in Rome by the New Head of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church

    On March 23, the bishops of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church elected as their new leader the youngest member of their hierarchy, 41 year-old Bishop Sviatoslav Shevchuk, of the Eparchy of Santa Maria del Patrocinio in Argentina. He succeeds as Major Archbishop of Kiev-Halych Lubomyr Cardinal Husar, who retired on February 10 due to failing eyesight. After the confirmation of the election by Pope Benedict XVI on March 25, Archbishop Shevchuk was enthroned in the still-to-be completed Cathedral of the Resurrection in Kiev on March 27th. Almost immediately thereafter, he and several members of the Permanent Synod of the UGCC hierarchy came to Rome, and were received in audience by the Holy Father on April 1.


    Cardinal Sandri reads Pope Benedict's letter confirming
    the election of Archbishop Shevchuk.

Yes, Latin Catholics, including the Pope, consider Ukrainian Greek Catholics to be *real* Catholics.
443 posted on 06/10/2012 3:11:59 AM PDT by Titanites
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