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To: bkaycee; metmom
This prot investigated what the Scriptures plainly teach and believed in the Saviour by Grace Alone through Faith Alone in Christ Alone.

It seems you might be missing a few verses in your Bible.

The saddest thing i have found is the once Gospel proclaiming church at Rome has become apostate and no longer preaches the saving Gospel of Jesus Christ, but a faith AND Works path to heaven, which is no path at all.

My KJV says something a bit different. Romans 2:5-6

5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

I forget is this one of the books you guys took out /sarc

304 posted on 06/07/2012 8:09:12 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: verga
"I forget is this one of the books you guys took out /sarc

Here is one, not removed just ignored:

"Keep reminding God’s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.” - 2 Timothy 2:14-19

309 posted on 06/07/2012 8:55:16 AM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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To: verga
My KJV says something a bit different. Romans 2:5-6

5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

You are quite right...At one time, Roman 2 was the rule...

But I don't really believe you own a KJV...I know for a fact that a KJV in Romans has a chapter 3...And apparently, you haven't read that chapter, or the ones following it...

Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Rom 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Now that just blew your theology of Romans 2 right out of the water...

There is clearly a transition from Romans 2 to Romans 3...And if you guys can't see it, it's because you don't want to, or,

2Co 4:1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2Co 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

You can't fool a bible believer by pulling a snippet of scripture out of the hat...

310 posted on 06/07/2012 9:11:50 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: verga; bkaycee
Romans 2:5-6 5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

And since Christ's righteousness has been imputed to us who put our faith in Him, then we're good to go because God sees us as having done the righteous deeds necessary to enter heaven.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Philippians 3:8-9 8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith—

Galatians 3:23-27 23 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. 24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

2 Corinthians 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

314 posted on 06/07/2012 12:08:26 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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