[boatbums]

Amen! And even more proof that water baptism was not meant for those who do not have the capacity to comprehend their sinfulness or the need for a savior (i.e.; babies, small children, mentally disabled, etc.). The ordinance was solely for the purpose of a public expression of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and a commitment to follow Him in newness of life. Such a thing cannot possibly be done for another person (faith by proxy) but is entered into after careful and conscious study and determination. It is the faith in Christ that saves us - and which effects the baptism of the Holy Spirit - APART from the ordinance of water baptism.

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

“The ordinance was solely for the purpose of a public expression of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and a commitment to follow Him in newness of life.”

can either one of you just provide ONE VERSE in the Bible that teaches this?

as an aside, i do find it interesting that someone will give an “Amen” to one who denies the Trinity and keeps the Sabbath. but when it comes to attacking historical, orthodox and Biblical Christianity, i guess the enemies of the Church don’t mind having strange bed fellows!