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To: CynicalBear
I am quite familiar with 2 Tim 2:15 and would simply ask you to show me from scripture where we are taught the bodily assumption of Mary or that she is now the “queen of heaven”.

They are not in the Scripture as you well know, but we've already established from Luke 2 that there is more to God's word than what is contained in the Bible.

648 posted on 05/29/2012 6:57:23 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: papertyger; CynicalBear; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...
They are not in the Scripture as you well know, but we've already established from Luke 2 that there is more to God's word than what is contained in the Bible.

*WE'VE* established what?

I don't recall seeing anyone agree with you on that.

Maybe YOU think you've established it, but you've proved nothing.

True believers are filled with God's Holy Spirit and can hear and recognize His voice, but anything HE directs an individual believer in no way rises to the level of inspired Scripture.

The reasoning that Catholics use is simply an attempt to justify the use of tradition and put it on par or above Holy Spirit inspired Scripture. It leads to what we've seen in the nonsense of teaching and proclaiming them as truth things that are directly contradicted in Scripture.

665 posted on 05/29/2012 8:35:07 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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>>there is more to God's word than what is contained in the Bible.<<

So the RCC can just make stuff up? The RCC is blasphemous in it’s adoration of Mary. Scripture should give even the casual reader evidence of that.

Luke 11:27-28 27 And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Nay rather, (Greek Menounge: nay surely, nay rather) blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.

Jesus disagreed with the words spoken about Mary and said those who believed were the ones who were blessed.

The words spoken to Mary were no different then were spoken to Jael in Judges. In fact, Jael was called blessed above women. Mary was called blessed among women.

Luke 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Judges 5:24 Blessed above women shall Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite be,

Those words were also spoken of Noah, Moses, and David.

721 posted on 05/29/2012 2:08:47 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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