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To: boatbums

“So, no, your “interpretation” of this one verse, implying that it is speaking only of sins committed prior to baptism as being remitted, but future sins needing the application of the grace received at the performance of the Mass, is plain wrong. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ perfected FOREVER those that are sanctified - made holy/set apart. By His ONE OFFERING - forever, for all who receive Him as Savior.”

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“The sacrifice of Jesus Christ perfected FOREVER those that are sanctified” -

boatbums, Your words are not true.

Heb 10:12
But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Hebrews 10:12
But this man offering one sacrifice for sins, for ever sitteth on the right hand of God.

The second is from the Douay-Rheims Bible. Notice where the coma is placed, one coma comes after the word forever and in the DR, the comma is placed before the word forever. Sure changes the meaning of the verse.

Man’s sins are ongoing, past, present and future. Look at the sins of the world. Jesus’ sacrifice on the Cross does not perfect a person. His death on the Cross does not sanctify you, His grace does.

How could you say “His ONE OFFERING” be only one time?

All Christians accept Jesus is our High Priest. Our Lord states His priesthood is everlasting in Hebrews 7:24. Our Lord continues to offer His sacrifice on Calvary to the Father for the sins of mankind in an “UNBLOODY” manner in Heaven and in the Mass here on earth, Our Lord is offered to the Father, the same, in an unbloody manner.


207 posted on 05/21/2012 2:37:19 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio; boatbums
“The sacrifice of Jesus Christ perfected FOREVER those that are sanctified” - boatbums, Your words are not true.

Boatbums is referencing Scripture.

Hebrews 10:14 For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

211 posted on 05/21/2012 2:52:07 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: stpio
Stpio, your words are not true. You contradict the very words of Jesus, the truths he taught as well as the truths the Holy Spirit revealed to those who wrote the Bible. Here's a hint on that “comma” placement, there is NO difference in Jesus offering one sacrifice for sin and then sitting down at the Father's right hand forever, and Jesus offering one sacrifice for sin forever and then sitting at the right hand of the Father! It is STILL ONE OFFERING - that is all it took for our sins to be paid for. He is the PROPITIATION for our sins - the satisfactory, paid in full, never to need repeating, one and only sacrifice for sin. He is not STILL making that sacrifice. It was ONCE FOR ALL. That is what Scripture says and it is plain as day no matter how your church tries to pervert it. Those that are Christ's can see it.
232 posted on 05/21/2012 10:39:53 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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